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PeaceNikki

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45. That was a decade ago. Things have changed and he's gone so not cozying up with anyone.

Reply to Nye Bevan (Reply #44)

Sun Apr 26, 2015, 10:24 AM

Apr 2015

The party has evolved since, you should, too.

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here's my issue with the 'rare' part of safe, legal and rare [View all] fizzgig Apr 2015 OP

I just don't get the idea.... daleanime Apr 2015 #1

We live in a society where many women who need an abortion can't get one. LeftyMom Apr 2015 #2

you are 100% correct fizzgig Apr 2015 #6

+10 million!!!! riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #3

... Solly Mack Apr 2015 #4

Rare is relative. There should be exactly as many abortions as are needed. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #5

it absolutely legitimizes efforts to restrict it fizzgig Apr 2015 #7

You both speak for me. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #17

You're just as eloquent, I just have a large body of work in my journal to c&p from. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #31

Can't add a word to that excellent argument! hifiguy Apr 2015 #66

+1 gazillion. progressoid Apr 2015 #79

It should be rare because sabbat hunter Apr 2015 #8

women should have access to birth control because it gives them autonomy over their lives fizzgig Apr 2015 #11

Do you all really believe Abortion should be used as another form of birth control? napi21 Apr 2015 #9

not my business fizzgig Apr 2015 #10

Yes. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #12

Do you really want somebody with that little ability to plan to be a parent? LeftyMom Apr 2015 #14

It is very rare for a woman to have more than one or two abortions in her lifetime. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #15

Abortion is not a form of birth control. It is a medical procedure to terminate a pregnancy. The still_one Apr 2015 #26

Yes. Do you really want children brought into this world who are not wanted? PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #32

Agree completely BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #78

Women are simply not that casual about abortion, depsite SheilaT Apr 2015 #34

yes n/t handmade34 Apr 2015 #77

I used to use the phrase "safe, legal, and rare" LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #13

LO4E gets it! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #16

Yup Solly Mack Apr 2015 #18

it does imply there are still 'bad' abortions fizzgig Apr 2015 #20

If EVERY woman ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #19

i fully understand that comprehensive sex ed and access to birth control reduces the abortion rate fizzgig Apr 2015 #21

I don't know where you are getting ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #63

Yes, unintended and unwanted pregancy should be rare... ananda Apr 2015 #43

Absolutely. NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #62

Then we don't need to use "rare". "Rare" will take care of itself. jeff47 Apr 2015 #57

If children are innoculated ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #61

The thing you are making rare in your example is bad. jeff47 Apr 2015 #64

What the "slogan" is intended to mean ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #67

Again, you are not trying to "sell" it to someone who agrees with you. jeff47 Apr 2015 #69

"An unaffordable abortion is not safe ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #76

I understand--this is the Democratic Platform statement however ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #22

I had a different understanding of rare gwheezie Apr 2015 #23

Plus a gazillion. love_katz Apr 2015 #24

If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrement. SheilaT Apr 2015 #25

Actually according to Gallop there are quite a few women who are not pro-choice still_one Apr 2015 #27

That is a very subjective polling question...many women consider themselves to be CTyankee Apr 2015 #29

That is a good point, and it isn't made clear in that poll. However, the trend graphs near the still_one Apr 2015 #42

I don't know but if they are saying they are pro-life but don't want Roe reversed CTyankee Apr 2015 #59

That's because culture has taught women that is what they are supposed to say. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #33

I agree with you. However, for whatever reason, though not a majority, there are still too many women who still_one Apr 2015 #48

Agree, unless and until it impacts them. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #49

Isn't that the way it always is unfortunately. still_one Apr 2015 #50

Indeed. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #51

Polls on that subject are usually problematic. jeff47 Apr 2015 #58

That is true, a person can be against abortion, but pro-choice still_one Apr 2015 #70

I think you meant pro-choice. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #71

I sure did. Just changed it. Thanks still_one Apr 2015 #72

I agree except get the red out Apr 2015 #28

Abortion should be legal and available because HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #30

It implies that right wing policy = more abortions AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #35

Kicked Enthusiast Apr 2015 #36

K&R myrna minx Apr 2015 #37

It's an issue of semantics. 99Forever Apr 2015 #38

It's about changing the rhetoric at a time when efforts to restrict access are hugely successful. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #39

Thanks for talking right past me. 99Forever Apr 2015 #40

Back atcha. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #41

Intent or not. 99Forever Apr 2015 #52

K, thanks for listening and being open to understanding!! PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #53

Back atcha. 99Forever Apr 2015 #54

Ted Kennedy: "abortion should be rare" Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #44

That was a decade ago. Things have changed and he's gone so not cozying up with anyone. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #45

Nancy Pelosi: "we want abortions to be safe, rare, and reduce the number of abortions". Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #46

She's wrong in framing it and I would be happy to discuss with her. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #47

Non-invasive procedures are almost always preferable TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #55

2% to 3% of women who have abortions experience side effects requiring medical assistance. Xithras Apr 2015 #56

Up to 9 weeks, women have non-surgical options Major Nikon Apr 2015 #65

I don't have that same issue. LWolf Apr 2015 #60

The procedure is invasive and can have major complications Ruby the Liberal Apr 2015 #68

+++++ "Rare" suggests a moral hazard. DirkGently Apr 2015 #73

I guess I'd rather see fewer abortions Squantoish Apr 2015 #74

If they have only two clinics in Texas allowed to perform abortions U4ikLefty Apr 2015 #75

Rec! progressoid Apr 2015 #80