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In reply to the discussion: Dr oz is no wizard but no quack either [View all]KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)8. The doctor who championed hand washing & briefly saved women's lives.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2015/01/12/375663920/the-doctor-who-championed-hand-washing-and-saved-women-s-lives
This is the story of a man whose ideas could have saved a lot of lives and spared countless numbers of women and newborns' feverish and agonizing deaths.
You'll notice I said "could have."
The year was 1846, and our would-be hero was a Hungarian doctor named Ignaz Semmelweis.
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He studied two maternity wards in the hospital. One was staffed by all male doctors and medical students, and the other was staffed by female midwives. And he counted the number of deaths on each ward.
When Semmelweis crunched the numbers, he discovered that women in the clinic staffed by doctors and medical students died at a rate nearly five times higher than women in the midwives' clinic.
But why?
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"The big difference between the doctors' ward and the midwives' ward is that the doctors were doing autopsies and the midwives weren't," she says.
So Semmelweis hypothesized that there were cadaverous particles, little pieces of corpse, that students were getting on their hands from the cadavers they dissected. And when they delivered the babies, these particles would get inside the women who would develop the disease and die.
If Semmelweis' hypothesis was correct, getting rid of those cadaverous particles should cut down on the death rate from childbed fever.
So he ordered his medical staff to start cleaning their hands and instruments not just with soap but with a chlorine solution. Chlorine, as we know today, is about the best disinfectant there is. Semmelweis didn't know anything about germs. He chose the chlorine because he thought it would be the best way to get rid of any smell left behind by those little bits of corpse.
And when he imposed this, the rate of childbed fever fell dramatically.
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You'd think everyone would be thrilled. Semmelweis had solved the problem! But they weren't thrilled.
For one thing, doctors were upset because Semmelweis' hypothesis made it look like they were the ones giving childbed fever to the women.
This is the story of a man whose ideas could have saved a lot of lives and spared countless numbers of women and newborns' feverish and agonizing deaths.
You'll notice I said "could have."
The year was 1846, and our would-be hero was a Hungarian doctor named Ignaz Semmelweis.
snip
He studied two maternity wards in the hospital. One was staffed by all male doctors and medical students, and the other was staffed by female midwives. And he counted the number of deaths on each ward.
When Semmelweis crunched the numbers, he discovered that women in the clinic staffed by doctors and medical students died at a rate nearly five times higher than women in the midwives' clinic.
But why?
snip
"The big difference between the doctors' ward and the midwives' ward is that the doctors were doing autopsies and the midwives weren't," she says.
So Semmelweis hypothesized that there were cadaverous particles, little pieces of corpse, that students were getting on their hands from the cadavers they dissected. And when they delivered the babies, these particles would get inside the women who would develop the disease and die.
If Semmelweis' hypothesis was correct, getting rid of those cadaverous particles should cut down on the death rate from childbed fever.
So he ordered his medical staff to start cleaning their hands and instruments not just with soap but with a chlorine solution. Chlorine, as we know today, is about the best disinfectant there is. Semmelweis didn't know anything about germs. He chose the chlorine because he thought it would be the best way to get rid of any smell left behind by those little bits of corpse.
And when he imposed this, the rate of childbed fever fell dramatically.
snip
You'd think everyone would be thrilled. Semmelweis had solved the problem! But they weren't thrilled.
For one thing, doctors were upset because Semmelweis' hypothesis made it look like they were the ones giving childbed fever to the women.
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He's a quack who sells snake oil and gives a voice to "gay conversion therapy"
PeaceNikki
Apr 2015
#1
Again, his website directs people to PFLAG. He doesn't include links to reparative therapy.
KittyWampus
Apr 2015
#6
His website w/video from that episode has only 3 links- to GLAAD, PFLAG, GLSEN
KittyWampus
Apr 2015
#5
Promoting Garcinia cambogia and green coffee beans as no effort weight loss cures
Major Nikon
Apr 2015
#34
So, anything Dr. Oz has done before you started watching 4 mo. ago is meaningless in this debate?
NickB79
Apr 2015
#21
Not skeptical of drugs. But wise enough to say "Consensus medicine is not always right."
mainer
Apr 2015
#64
I am way more concerned about fraudulent Pharmaceutical Corps who push harmful
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#23
The witchunt's origins are clear. This time they screwed up royally though. He's got 4 million
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#41
Sorry, those who are trying to silence him on GMO labeling discredited themselves totally
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#43
Then you are more of a fan of his show than I am. Why watch someone you think is
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#47
He invites activists with no credentials on and calls them "scientists" when they are not.
PeaceNikki
Apr 2015
#53
Yes, it is. Thank you for remaining civil. And good luck with your mom, it isn't
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#56
He should know better, being a trained doctor, but chooses to peddle snake oil anyways.
backscatter712
Apr 2015
#54
Sorry Dr. Oz and Jenny McCarthy: More scientific proof vaccines, GMOs don’t cause autism
beam me up scottie
Apr 2015
#60
Right, because your inference that his critics on DU have an agenda was what?
beam me up scottie
Apr 2015
#80