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20. Instead of praying, why not write a check and do something that actually helps?

Sun Apr 26, 2015, 03:06 PM

Apr 2015

http://www.redcross.org/news/article/Red-Cross-Responding-to-78-Magnitude-Earthquake-in-Nepal
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=1888#.VT02yWPkwyo

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] G_j Apr 2015 OP

Praying for them. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #1

Vibes applegrove Apr 2015 #2

. and setup a gofundme account or something Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #3

... shenmue Apr 2015 #4

... Mnemosyne Apr 2015 #5

... scarletwoman Apr 2015 #6

God works in mysterious ways. It is not for us to know, or question. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #7

Yep, so mysterious that EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #14

On this thread you wrote that? Wow! yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #201

How is that incorrect? Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #208

Well I don't know and I am not sure if their is a God or not yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #210

It seems weird to tell people to pray for Nepal, Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #213

believers have to put up with constant attacks on believers in GD el_bryanto Apr 2015 #214

Well I don't disagree but there is a religion group yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #216

The whole "God works in mysterious ways" is incredibly insulting EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #221

You forgot the Sarcasm smiley. At least I hope you did. mr blur Apr 2015 #15

If this is how he works, he is a malevolent bastard. alarimer Apr 2015 #51

Seriously? phil89 Apr 2015 #61

So he just got bored, hey Moses, watch this... snooper2 Apr 2015 #99

That is just fucking creepy... Oktober Apr 2015 #105

We are only sure that if there is a god, it is not moral. Or it is not all powerful. PassingFair Apr 2015 #183

Question HassleCat Apr 2015 #186

... MissDeeds Apr 2015 #8

k&r, twitter hashtag link bananas Apr 2015 #9

thank you nt G_j Apr 2015 #10

#PrayForNepal erroltiozon Apr 2015 #11

And what do you think that's going to do for them, exactly? Ron Obvious Apr 2015 #12

But a hashtag and a gofundme or a shirt would make ME feel better NightWatcher Apr 2015 #13

You are not alone. A "friend" on FB (yes, I proudly use FB) ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #16

Springsteen's life built on foundation of giving -- quietly G_j Apr 2015 #18

I have no beef with what Bruce gives quietly... I have a beef with star-studded "caring..." ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #19

I get what you are saying G_j Apr 2015 #24

I believe I brought up "Bono/Bruce Springsteen/Heidi Klum/insert name of other celebrity looking to" ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #26

It is a pound sign damn it! Kudos to your dad! (nt) LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #33

I admit, I was at a gaming convention all weekend nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #79

I don't think the one denies the other. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #96

Your welcome to skip this thread but you purposely yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #204

It's a simple enough question and I'd appreciate an answer to it. Ron Obvious Apr 2015 #224

Continued prayers for the victims and the dead. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #17

Instead of praying, why not write a check and do something that actually helps? EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #20

We can do both. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #21

The OP didn't ask for both EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #22

True but my statement is also true. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #23

I didn't reply to you EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #25

ok. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #27

Yep EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #28

But i am allowed to respond to you. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #29

Didn't say you couldn't EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #31

Shitting in the thread is very helpful. pintobean Apr 2015 #36

If you notice, I posted links to groups that would actually help EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #37

Yes, you're so helpful. pintobean Apr 2015 #38

It's ironic that you have such disdain for my post EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #39

The OP is a person of faith pintobean Apr 2015 #41

I think it does do harm, thus my post EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #43

Pffft pintobean Apr 2015 #44

I didn't say that religious organizations weren't going to assist EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #46

Oh bullshit. Document the harm, other than to your sensibilities. rug Apr 2015 #67

I like to pretend I have absolute knowledge of all relevant actions taken by other people too. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #98

Not for you to dictate or decide. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #206

actually, I wouldn't call myself that. G_j Apr 2015 #70

There is a special place here on DU were the sensitive faithful can brag Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #122

The forum hosts seem to say otherwise. pintobean Apr 2015 #128

The "please help us pray" people are, mr. beano. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #129

The thread has been up since Saturday. pintobean Apr 2015 #131

Interestingly it is precisely as effective as prayer... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #112

Without material works, like donations of time or money, the thread wasn't helpful anyway. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #119

And you didn't start an OP at all on Nepal. rug Apr 2015 #66

That link came 4 hours after pintobean Apr 2015 #69

No tragedy too small to advance an agenda. rug Apr 2015 #72

Hello pot, meet kettle... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #77

You know all about that. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #88

If you mean I've read yours and others's responses, yeah, I've seen plenty. rug Apr 2015 #89

The one doesn't deny the other. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #97

here is a thread with link to many reliable and reputable place to donate uppityperson Apr 2015 #189

Done EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #223

K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #30

Or, do something that actually makes a difference... SidDithers Apr 2015 #32

Absolutely. Yorktown Apr 2015 #35

+1 octoberlib Apr 2015 #58

'And". rug Apr 2015 #68

"Or"...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #75

bimary thinking leads to awkward positions. rug Apr 2015 #76

Who is "Mary"? A HERETIC I AM Apr 2015 #94

My typing teacher. rug Apr 2015 #95

How sad. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2015 #106

You have a low bar for sadness, if a typo puts you over the edge. rug Apr 2015 #107

LOL A HERETIC I AM Apr 2015 #110

Oh my perceptive abilities are just fine. rug Apr 2015 #118

I like Mercy Corps myself, but their local assets were directly impacted, so others might be AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #120

holy shit, I agree with sid. PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #197

Two hands working do more than ten thousand clasped in prayer. n/t A HERETIC I AM Apr 2015 #34

#wasteoffuckingtime Codeine Apr 2015 #40

^^^This^^^ truebrit71 Apr 2015 #45

Funny thing MFrohike Apr 2015 #42

And if the OP had posted links to orgs setup to help Nepal, then you'd have a point EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #48

Comedy MFrohike Apr 2015 #53

You didn't do a thing until halfway into the thread. rug Apr 2015 #71

I'm anti-religious and I donated.... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #141

Who gives a shit, even assuming the unverifiable to be true. rug Apr 2015 #143

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #144

Yeah, "alleged donatiom". rug Apr 2015 #145

Oh you're simple alright.... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #146

I see. A demand for evidence reduces you to Pee Wee Herman retorts. rug Apr 2015 #147

Just following your lead.... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #148

If I were stirring shit, I wouldn't be able to post any more in this thread. rug Apr 2015 #149

How do you know? Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #83

Correct MFrohike Apr 2015 #86

Actually, before I even stopped in at DU yesterday, I sent in my donation to World Vision. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #108

To you, I'm sorry MFrohike Apr 2015 #135

Prayers for this heartbreaking tragedy... MoonRiver Apr 2015 #47

The hypocrisy of some criticizing the OP is mind boggling! MoonRiver Apr 2015 #49

The self anointed thought police say no. pintobean Apr 2015 #50

One of my friends has family in Kathmandu BuddhaGirl Apr 2015 #56

The hypocrisy of some criticizing the criticism of the OP is mind boggling EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #52

why should it matter to you? G_j Apr 2015 #54

Why should it matter to you? Lordquinton Apr 2015 #55

A couple of reasons EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #57

obviously you have issues about people praying G_j Apr 2015 #62

In other words, your fee-fees were hurt. rug Apr 2015 #74

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2015 #80

I don't pray nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #85

I agree with you EvolveOrConvolve Apr 2015 #222

(Except upthread you said prayer is harmful.) rug Apr 2015 #73

But ask yourself which of those two actions actually helps? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #64

When you pray you should ask your god why it caused or didn't prevent the quake in the first place. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #87

Perhaps they were praying to the "wrong" god? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #133

I saw that! Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #150

I donated instead. Iggo Apr 2015 #59

All this over a simple call to prayer. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #60

Or you could do something useful and donate... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #63

I am not going to argue over prayer with you but yes donate. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #65

And why would a supernatural being that didn't prevent this earthquake listen to prayers? Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #82

I pray for strength to get through trials and tribulations. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #84

Is your life on the line, in this tragedy? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #121

How the flying fuck does that help people in nepal devastated by an earthquake? Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #123

Checked off the earthquake... Oktober Apr 2015 #103

Indeed. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #113

Is a Prayer Circle more or less effective than individual prayer? brooklynite Apr 2015 #90

More. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #91

I see - so if I'm not lucky enough to have a GROUP pray for me, I'm more likely to suffer? brooklynite Apr 2015 #92

No. I do pray that only good things will happen. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #93

Yeah, but we can only pray to your approved list of gods/goddesses snooper2 Apr 2015 #100

Whio said that? I know I sure as hell did not! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #101

My posts and OP to the FSM God were locked and attacked snooper2 Apr 2015 #111

Because it is a parody of religion and mocking religion is not allowed in that room. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #114

Who are you to say that? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #132

Look at its origins. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #134

The very same could be said about scientology.... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #136

People can make whatever argument they like. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #137

Except for when you lock the threads, right? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #138

Well when one is in a safe haven one should remember the rules. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #139

That is pretty rich.... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #140

Oh how so? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #142

Difficult to follow the rules when you are the one interpreting them for everyone else, based cleanhippie Apr 2015 #152

I am sorry? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #153

Keep making Jesus proud. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #154

Flying spaghetti monster is a paradoy of religion. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #155

To you, perhaps. But not to those that believe in it. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #158

If you have an issue with my hosting decision you can put your complaint here; hrmjustin Apr 2015 #159

It's not your hosting decisions, it's your blatant hypocrisy and intolerance. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #160

Bye buddy! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #161

Sorry, I cannot be buddies with you, Justin. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #162

You know if you feel that I am a hypocrite and intolerant you should inform the admins. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #163

It's apparent you can't take me seriously. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #164

Show the courage of your convictions and tell skinner about your concerns about me. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #165

Have you seen the backlog in ATA? cleanhippie Apr 2015 #167

That is just making excuses Cleanhippie. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #170

lol. I see your childish taunt with one of my own. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #172

No I am challenging you to put up. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #174

! cleanhippie Apr 2015 #176

You just comfirmed what I thought. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #179

! cleanhippie Apr 2015 #181

Exactly as legitimate and ridiculous as Christianity, Islam or Judaism... Oktober Apr 2015 #175

I don't think you should presume to speak for me. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #177

They're not speaking for you, they're interpteting your actions. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #178

No one is speaking for you... Oktober Apr 2015 #185

You do realize how insulting your post is? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #187

But Justin, don't you realise that NOBODY takes you seriously? mr blur Apr 2015 #190

Why is that? Oktober Apr 2015 #191

Really? There is hope for me doesn't sound insulting? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #192

Like I said... Oktober Apr 2015 #193

Like I said... hrmjustin Apr 2015 #194

I'm OK with that... Oktober Apr 2015 #195

I have hope you will treat me with respect one day. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #196

It's part of the shtick. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #180

Perhaps it's just a part of being a tyrant or dictator? cleanhippie Apr 2015 #151

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #124

Do not pray nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #78

I would never pray to the sociopath of a deity that would cause/allow this. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #81

... or you could do something useful Oktober Apr 2015 #102

So if someone asked for good vibes for their grandmother G_j Apr 2015 #109

They may or may not be religious... Oktober Apr 2015 #115

While I agree that vibes are useless nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #116

If you still insist on the absurdity of making it G_j Apr 2015 #117

The nepalese people are not requesting our prayers. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #125

they could use is clean water, medical supplies, rescue equipment of all sorts? G_j Apr 2015 #126

How can they use your prayers? Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #127

you know someone could say a simple prayer while they are taking a dump, G_j Apr 2015 #130

Prayers are delicious Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #104

It's interesting that the mention of prayer is so offensive to so many. nt el_bryanto Apr 2015 #156

Sad but true. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #157

It's interesting that the mention that prayer is ineffective is so offensive to many... PoutrageFatigue Apr 2015 #166

The religion group does not have atheist bashing in its sop. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #168

Are you denying that atheist-bashing occurs on a DAILY basis in that group? PoutrageFatigue Apr 2015 #169

I am not a host of the religion room. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #171

My mistake. PoutrageFatigue Apr 2015 #173

It's interesting that you didn't notice the description of some DUers as 'vermin' in a reply to you muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #198

No I didn't notice it. i skimmed through his post last night. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #199

It wasn't just that word, though, was it? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #202

And i asked him note to do that again. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #203

Hey - it's a call out el_bryanto Apr 2015 #205

Calling DUers 'vermin' goes beyond a call out muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #207

Ah - I mean you are calling out HRMJustin el_bryanto Apr 2015 #209

A reply is not a 'call out' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #211

So you are fine with broadbrush attacks el_bryanto Apr 2015 #212

You're assuming a lot there muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #215

I've been in the religion group el_bryanto Apr 2015 #182

I think you have that precisely backwards... PoutrageFatigue Apr 2015 #184

Atheists and Anti-Theists are two overlapping groups el_bryanto Apr 2015 #188

Why not slaughter a chicken? Drink its blood? Same result! nt Logical Apr 2015 #218

Or I could just religiously attack believers as a knee jerk reaction el_bryanto Apr 2015 #219

You are insulting religions that kill animals? Do you know much about different religions? nt Logical Apr 2015 #220

Recommend. nt Zorra Apr 2015 #200

If god needs prayers to help Nepal then god can fuck off..... Logical Apr 2015 #217