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In reply to the discussion: here's my issue with the 'rare' part of safe, legal and rare [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)69. Again, you are not trying to "sell" it to someone who agrees with you.
What the "slogan" is intended to mean is obvious
TO YOU. You are not the target of the slogan. The slogan could be "abortion is Satan worship" and you and I would still support abortion.
There is no negative connotation to striving to make abortion rare, any more than striving to make polio rare
You're only looking at the verbs. You aren't bothering to look at the nouns, because that is not the story you want to tell. And it's blinded you to the fact that you just said abortion was just like polio.
"Abortion, it puts children in an iron lung for life". Golly, I wonder why we didn't use that.
Again you are equating making abortion rare with NOT PROVIDING THEM when sought, rather than by reducing their necessity via preventative measures such as BC and sex ed.
Reading. You need to try it.
Oh wait...that's never going to happen. Clearly if we only shouted "Rare" louder, that would fix everything!
Now you've totally lost me. If you can't obtain an abortion, how can that non-abortion be unsafe?
No, you've never bothered paying attention so I couldn't have just lost you. See, you're saying the same thing over and over again without bothering to understand anyone else's position.
Anyway, you wanted to add two conditions. Those conditions do not have to be applied at the same time. An unaffordable abortion is not safe, because if you can't afford it you are going to go an unsafe route. Same with "unavailable".
You are reading waaaaay too much into three words
One word.
Anyway, it's entirely apparent that you don't actually want to talk to anyone about this, so go continue to fail to expand abortion access by dying for keeping the word "rare" in a slogan that is utterly failing to accomplish what you want.
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You're just as eloquent, I just have a large body of work in my journal to c&p from.
PeaceNikki
Apr 2015
#31
women should have access to birth control because it gives them autonomy over their lives
fizzgig
Apr 2015
#11
Do you all really believe Abortion should be used as another form of birth control?
napi21
Apr 2015
#9
It is very rare for a woman to have more than one or two abortions in her lifetime.
liberal_at_heart
Apr 2015
#15
Abortion is not a form of birth control. It is a medical procedure to terminate a pregnancy. The
still_one
Apr 2015
#26
Yes. Do you really want children brought into this world who are not wanted?
PeaceNikki
Apr 2015
#32
i fully understand that comprehensive sex ed and access to birth control reduces the abortion rate
fizzgig
Apr 2015
#21
Actually according to Gallop there are quite a few women who are not pro-choice
still_one
Apr 2015
#27
That is a very subjective polling question...many women consider themselves to be
CTyankee
Apr 2015
#29
That is a good point, and it isn't made clear in that poll. However, the trend graphs near the
still_one
Apr 2015
#42
I don't know but if they are saying they are pro-life but don't want Roe reversed
CTyankee
Apr 2015
#59
That's because culture has taught women that is what they are supposed to say.
PeaceNikki
Apr 2015
#33
I agree with you. However, for whatever reason, though not a majority, there are still too many women who
still_one
Apr 2015
#48
It's about changing the rhetoric at a time when efforts to restrict access are hugely successful.
PeaceNikki
Apr 2015
#39
That was a decade ago. Things have changed and he's gone so not cozying up with anyone.
PeaceNikki
Apr 2015
#45
Nancy Pelosi: "we want abortions to be safe, rare, and reduce the number of abortions".
Nye Bevan
Apr 2015
#46