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Exilednight

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Sun Apr 26, 2015, 08:00 PM Apr 2015

Why Liberals Matter In Purple States [View all]

I currently live in Virginia, a state that has switched sides from Bush in 2004 to Obama in 2008. Virginia is what is commonly called a "purple" state; but is it really a place of centrist belief?

Short answer: No.

Long answer:
Virginia is a very divided state in terms of political dogma on both the left and the right. No one claims to be a Republican or a Democrat. Instead we label ourselves as liberal or conservative. I have a tea party neighbor whom I barely speak to because we disagree on every position possible. He's pro gun, anti abortion, pro military spending, anti marijuana, pro surveillance, anti Muslim, and pro America is founded Christian.

IF Hillary wants to win a general election, she needs to understand that third way and triangulation centrist policy doesn't work in a state like Virginia. A President, no matter what party, will piss off at least half the population in a state like Virginia; if not more. A centrist policy will piss off even more than half the population in this state. Those that vote Democratic Party will not vote for a centrist, third way, triangulating nominee in the GE. The left in this purple state are what some will call the "loud left" or a handful of other terms that paint us as fringe in our beliefs, but we are the ones who decide general elections, not the middle. Discussions within my group of friends have shown that nearly a 1/3 of what should be the Democratic base will not vote for her and either vote third party or skip the presidential race altogether.

This is not good news for Hillary. Her favorabity has already begun to slide. Yes, she might be sitting high in the polls now, but at this same time in 2008 she was 30 points ahead of Obama and her favorability rating had not begun to slide into what ultatimately went an upside down rating with her unfavorable rating higher than her favorable.

I do believe she can, and probably will, win the Democratic primary, she will more than likely lose in a general election if she refuses to acknowledge and begin fighting, with more than words, for us who are proud liberals.

People need to remember that just because a state can switch sides in an election, it's not because we have centrist positions, it's typically because we are deeply held beliefs in deeply divided states.

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It may shock you to know Hillary is a Hard Core Liberal. Many pont out she Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #1
Her words are, but her Exilednight Apr 2015 #4
Show me what you are referring. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #5
Here you go ... Exilednight Apr 2015 #7
By Hillary's own words, Exilednight Apr 2015 #12
Sliding? Hillary's poll numbers went up in Virginia. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #2
Huff Po has a link to all of Exilednight Apr 2015 #6
Sounds like Ohio. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #3
Brown would be possible running-mate material, then. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #18
I don't believe that VPs bring any ... Exilednight Apr 2015 #28
i'm sure she will see what the governor and senators have done to win in the state recently JI7 Apr 2015 #8
Here's where the rubber meets the road... Exilednight Apr 2015 #9
K&R Being Not as Bad is piss poor advertising and a piss poor way of governing. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Apr 2015 #11
Yes, you forgot to mention his nearly-indicted-on-corruption-charges opponent. jeff47 Apr 2015 #14
Exactly, but that's what happens when Exilednight Apr 2015 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Apr 2015 #16
NC is similar. jeff47 Apr 2015 #13
Some of rural NC is blue MFrohike Apr 2015 #20
No simplification fits perfectly. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #25
True MFrohike Apr 2015 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Apr 2015 #17
since 2000 (or 1996?) they've always been saying that Dems win in SPITE of libs MisterP Apr 2015 #19
How did Obama (who plenty of people here say is a centrist if not a conservative) win in VA? brooklynite Apr 2015 #21
he ran to the left of Exilednight Apr 2015 #22
I'm talking about in the General Election... brooklynite Apr 2015 #23
In the GE Exilednight Apr 2015 #24
And even with that jeff47 Apr 2015 #26
Who's the Governor again? whatthehey Apr 2015 #27
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