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In reply to the discussion: Dr oz is no wizard but no quack either [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)72. What about his dog and pony show before the Senate?
Dr. Oz and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day
Dr. Mehmet Oz is one of the most well-known, and possibly the most influential medical doctor in America. The Dr. Oz Show is broadcast in 118 countries and reaches over 3 million viewers in the USA alone. When Oz profiles a product or supplement on his show, sales explode its called The Dr. Oz Effect. Regrettably, Oz routinely and consistently gives questionable health advice, particularly when it comes to weight loss products, where Oz regularly uses hyperbolic terms like miracle for the products he profiles:
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When it was announced that Dr. Oz had been invited to speak by Senate Commerce subcommittee Chairwoman Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) about weight loss scams, at least one irony meter exploded. A protégé of Oprah, his spin-off television show started in 2007 quickly became a platform for hosting other dubious experts, offering questionable health advice, and repeatedly profiling todays versions of snake oil. So asking Oz to speak about weight-loss scams seemed absurd, given hes possibly the most influential promoter of weight loss scams in America. A friend of the blog suggested that a better use of Dr. Oz would have been to hold him up as an example of the very problem hed been asked to speak about.
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Senator McCaskill repeatedly grilled Dr. Oz on green coffee beans, one of his most absurd miracle supplements that hes endorsed. Heres the key excerpt, and I thank friend of the blog, Dr. Peter Lipson, for taking the time to transcribe it:
More: https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/dr-oz-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-day/
Dr. Mehmet Oz is one of the most well-known, and possibly the most influential medical doctor in America. The Dr. Oz Show is broadcast in 118 countries and reaches over 3 million viewers in the USA alone. When Oz profiles a product or supplement on his show, sales explode its called The Dr. Oz Effect. Regrettably, Oz routinely and consistently gives questionable health advice, particularly when it comes to weight loss products, where Oz regularly uses hyperbolic terms like miracle for the products he profiles:
. (On green coffee extract) You may think magic is make-believe, but this little bean has scientists saying they found the magic weight-loss for every body type.
. (On raspberry ketone) Ive got the number one miracle in a bottle to burn your fat
. (On Garcinia cambogia) It may be the simple solution youve been looking for to bust your body fat for good.
...
When it was announced that Dr. Oz had been invited to speak by Senate Commerce subcommittee Chairwoman Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) about weight loss scams, at least one irony meter exploded. A protégé of Oprah, his spin-off television show started in 2007 quickly became a platform for hosting other dubious experts, offering questionable health advice, and repeatedly profiling todays versions of snake oil. So asking Oz to speak about weight-loss scams seemed absurd, given hes possibly the most influential promoter of weight loss scams in America. A friend of the blog suggested that a better use of Dr. Oz would have been to hold him up as an example of the very problem hed been asked to speak about.
...
Senator McCaskill repeatedly grilled Dr. Oz on green coffee beans, one of his most absurd miracle supplements that hes endorsed. Heres the key excerpt, and I thank friend of the blog, Dr. Peter Lipson, for taking the time to transcribe it:
Dr. Oz: Well, if I could disagree about whether they work or not, and Ill move on to the issue of the words that I used. And just with regards to whether they work or not, take green coffee bean extract as an example. Uh, Im not gonna argue that it would pass FDA muster if it was a pharmaceutical drug seeking approval, but among the natural products that are out there, this is a product that has several clinical trials. There was one large one, a very good quality one, that was done the year that we talked about this, in 2012. Listen, Ive
Sen. McCaskill: wh..wha..I wanna know about that clinical trial. Because the only one I know was sixteen people in India that was paid for by the company that, that was in fact, at the point in time when you initially talked about this being a miracle, the only study that was out there was the one with sixteen people in India that was written up by somebody that was being paid by the company that was producing it.
Dr. Oz: Well, this paper argue that there was no one paying for it, but I have the, four papers, five papers actually plus a series of basic science papers on it as well. But, but Senator McCaskill, what, if I, we can spend a lot of time arguing the merits of whether green coffee bean extract is worth trying or not worth trying. Maybe the things that we argue you do with regard to your diet are likewise criticizable, I mean should you be on a low fat diet, a low carb diet, we b I spent a good part of my career recommending that folks have a low fat diet, but weve come full circle in that argument now and no longer recommend that now, many of us who practice medicine because it no longer worked for our patients. Now it is remarkably complex, as you know, to figure out what works for most people even, in a dietary program.
In the practice of medicine we evolve by looking at new ideas and challenging orthodoxy and evolving them. So so when I hold these are the five papers, these are clinical papers, uh, and we can argue about the quality of them, very justifiably, uh, I could pick apart papers that showed no benefit as well, but, at, at the end of the day, I have clinical subjects, real people, having undergone trials, and in this case I actually gave it to member of my audience it wasnt a formal trial, it was just an exch
Senator McCaskill: Which wouldnt pass the trial you did with your audience, you would not say that it would ever pass scientific muster.
Dr. Oz: No, I would never publish the paper. It wasnt done under the appropriate IRB guidance, that wasnt the purpose of it. The purpose was for me to get a thumbnail sketch, was this worth talking to people about or not. But again I dont think this should be a referendum on the use of alternative medical therapies cause if thats the case then Ive been criticized for having folks come on my show and talk about the power of prayer. Now again as a practitioner I cant prove that prayer helps people survive an illness, I
Senator McCaskill: Sure, but its hard to buy prayer.
Dr. Oz: Hard to buy prayer. Thats the difference.
Sen. McCaskill: Prayer is free.
Dr. Oz: Yes, prayer is free, thats a very good point.
More: https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/dr-oz-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-day/
You ask:
Where do all these attacks come from, so suddenly, and why? And why does a "distinguished doctor" who served time in jail for Medicaid fraud have it in for Oz?
Why are you lending credence to his conspiracy theory that some shadowy faction is "suddenly" out to get him when it's obvious that Dr. Oz has had a quacking problem for a very long time?
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He's a quack who sells snake oil and gives a voice to "gay conversion therapy"
PeaceNikki
Apr 2015
#1
Again, his website directs people to PFLAG. He doesn't include links to reparative therapy.
KittyWampus
Apr 2015
#6
His website w/video from that episode has only 3 links- to GLAAD, PFLAG, GLSEN
KittyWampus
Apr 2015
#5
Promoting Garcinia cambogia and green coffee beans as no effort weight loss cures
Major Nikon
Apr 2015
#34
So, anything Dr. Oz has done before you started watching 4 mo. ago is meaningless in this debate?
NickB79
Apr 2015
#21
Not skeptical of drugs. But wise enough to say "Consensus medicine is not always right."
mainer
Apr 2015
#64
I am way more concerned about fraudulent Pharmaceutical Corps who push harmful
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#23
The witchunt's origins are clear. This time they screwed up royally though. He's got 4 million
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#41
Sorry, those who are trying to silence him on GMO labeling discredited themselves totally
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#43
Then you are more of a fan of his show than I am. Why watch someone you think is
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#47
He invites activists with no credentials on and calls them "scientists" when they are not.
PeaceNikki
Apr 2015
#53
Yes, it is. Thank you for remaining civil. And good luck with your mom, it isn't
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#56
He should know better, being a trained doctor, but chooses to peddle snake oil anyways.
backscatter712
Apr 2015
#54
Sorry Dr. Oz and Jenny McCarthy: More scientific proof vaccines, GMOs don’t cause autism
beam me up scottie
Apr 2015
#60
Right, because your inference that his critics on DU have an agenda was what?
beam me up scottie
Apr 2015
#80