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longship

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86. No, I would not presume.

Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:35 AM

Apr 2015

But apparently you think this thread is about something else. Either you want to distract from the topic, or you are using a tu quoque argument. Either are irrelevant.

The topic is Dr. Oz's putative quackery.

And since, as a surgeon, Oz obviously also prescribes pharmaceuticals, people's attempt to portray such a thing as bad... Well, I don't see what you are trying to say. It is just not any logic that I can comprehend, let alone follow.

I can only presume that you are somehow attempting to support his promotion of abject quackery, which I would think most people would see as being a bad thing.

Homeopathy?
Reiki?
Magic weight loss beans?
John Edward?
John of God?

The guy's not only a quack. He's a kook!

Note: I ignored your ad hominem towards me.

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Dr oz is no wizard but no quack either [View all] mainer Apr 2015 OP

He's a quack who sells snake oil and gives a voice to "gay conversion therapy" PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #1

He said he is against it mainer Apr 2015 #3

He gave them a platform. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #4

Again, his website directs people to PFLAG. He doesn't include links to reparative therapy. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #6

He is against it but gives his soapbox to those who promote it Major Nikon Apr 2015 #30

I've never seen the show, but it is entertainment, right? roody Apr 2015 #42

His website w/video from that episode has only 3 links- to GLAAD, PFLAG, GLSEN KittyWampus Apr 2015 #5

Neat. Still a quack. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #7

LOL! So now you just revert to calling him a quack. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #10

Promoting Garcinia cambogia and green coffee beans as no effort weight loss cures Major Nikon Apr 2015 #34

PeaceNikki isn't the only one calling him a quack. beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #62

Some in the establishment do sometimes literally LiberalElite Apr 2015 #2

The doctor who championed hand washing & briefly saved women's lives. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #8

Dr. Oz is no Dr. Semmelweis NickB79 Apr 2015 #20

I prefer science-based medicine. And yes, Dr. Oz promotes quackery. longship Apr 2015 #9

like giving thalidomide to pregnant women? KittyWampus Apr 2015 #11

And then stopping, and paying restitutions? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #13

Gees! Non sequitur! longship Apr 2015 #14

Many of the drugs ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #40

Again a non sequitur. longship Apr 2015 #51

No, ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #57

Let's see... longship Apr 2015 #78

Vitamins are ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #83

I see. The argument from inevitable corruption. longship Apr 2015 #84

You're pretty ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #85

No, I would not presume. longship Apr 2015 #86

When I see ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #87

Okay, let me chop down your straw men. longship Apr 2015 #89

Thalidomide is chiral like a lot of things JonLP24 Apr 2015 #88

10 quack treatments Dr. Oz needs to defend: beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #61

Yeah, actually he's a quack Scootaloo Apr 2015 #12

Bet you don't watch his 840high Apr 2015 #17

"not true lately" You sure about that? NickB79 Apr 2015 #18

I said lately - I've been 840high Apr 2015 #19

So, anything Dr. Oz has done before you started watching 4 mo. ago is meaningless in this debate? NickB79 Apr 2015 #21

He gives them a stage -- and then uses it to argue with them mainer Apr 2015 #28

And even GIVING them a stage is called "false equivalency" NickB79 Apr 2015 #44

Does that include "Raspberry Ketones: The Miracle Fat Burner"? frazzled Apr 2015 #15

I'm not aware this has killed anyone mainer Apr 2015 #27

I never said yank his MD frazzled Apr 2015 #31

I am a doctor. And I agree with Columbia Univ mainer Apr 2015 #35

+1 BuddhaGirl Apr 2015 #36

It's actually the very definition of being a snake-oil salesman Scootaloo Apr 2015 #39

You are a doctor who is skeptical of drugs? frazzled Apr 2015 #58

Not skeptical of drugs. But wise enough to say "Consensus medicine is not always right." mainer Apr 2015 #64

Why are you so defensive? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #68

You need to update your profile ... GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #71

Yes, I just did update it. mainer Apr 2015 #79

It has made plenty of corporations and salesmen rich, however bhikkhu Apr 2015 #67

Thank you. 840high Apr 2015 #16

Sounds like a duck.....etc alphafemale Apr 2015 #22

I am way more concerned about fraudulent Pharmaceutical Corps who push harmful sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #23

Yes. I simply don't 840high Apr 2015 #25

The witchunt's origins are clear. This time they screwed up royally though. He's got 4 million sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #41

No. He's a quack...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #24

If Dr. Oz thought there was an extra dollar or viewer in it SwankyXomb Apr 2015 #26

Not sure if "quack" is the right word. zappaman Apr 2015 #29

no evidence that he's personally profited from sales of any of these products mainer Apr 2015 #32

Uh, yeah. He has. It's called his TV show. jeff47 Apr 2015 #81

He is a quack! LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #33

Sorry, those who are trying to silence him on GMO labeling discredited themselves totally sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #43

I seen the show show many many times, he really did say that bull LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #46

Then you are more of a fan of his show than I am. Why watch someone you think is sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #47

I watch it because I am the main caretaker for my mom who has MS LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #48

I'm sorry about your mom and you are a good person to be taking care of her. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #50

He invites activists with no credentials on and calls them "scientists" when they are not. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #53

Even if people disagree, it is always nice to have a polite conversation. LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #55

Yes, it is. Thank you for remaining civil. And good luck with your mom, it isn't sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #56

Yes. It's obvious you know nothing about him. zappaman Apr 2015 #69

... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #73

He's not a quack, but he plays one on TV. Iggo Apr 2015 #37

"He is a quack! he recommended calcium supplements!" mainer Apr 2015 #38

Shhh, stop posting factual information. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #45

Here's some more factual information. zappaman Apr 2015 #70

Dr OZ a dangerous medical quack and a conspiracy theorist piece of trash 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #49

LOL, he is a quack. He has a magic pill that causes you to lose weight! nt Logical Apr 2015 #52

He should know better, being a trained doctor, but chooses to peddle snake oil anyways. backscatter712 Apr 2015 #54

You cannot win against the PHd of keyboard doctors! You are wasting your time. Rex Apr 2015 #59

Sorry Dr. Oz and Jenny McCarthy: More scientific proof vaccines, GMOs don�t cause autism beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #60

"Dr Oz is against vaccines, just like Jenna McCarthy!" mainer Apr 2015 #63

Are your patients straw men too? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #65

I stand with Columbia Univ mainer Apr 2015 #75

Are you? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #76

This devolves into personal attacks, does it? How sad. mainer Apr 2015 #77

Right, because your inference that his critics on DU have an agenda was what? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #80

He's still a quack bhikkhu Apr 2015 #66

What about his dog and pony show before the Senate? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #72

No, he's a quack. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #74

If he isn't a quack then why is he molting? Kalidurga Apr 2015 #82