The barnstorming charge here rushing to defend the deplorable TPP

[JonLP24]

197. This isn't anything new

My first big problem was when Obama used Bush era arguments (a week after the torture memo where the paid liar Press Secretary corrected a reporter "enhanced interrogation techniques" in the same press conference that mentions the torture photo case that lost on the argument but calling the Obama one a new idea when it was roughly the same Rumsfeld logic) to block the release of them & here came the rush to defend it and this is where a lot of the "3D chess" arguments came.

Another was when Obama used Bush era logic to block Bagram detainees from using Habaes Corpus to challenge their detention & there was a rush to defend it. I remember Jon Stewart's 2010 President Obama v Candidate Obama debate (good luck finding a video, I've tried but trust me it exists) and there was a rush to dismiss Jon Stewart as he is a comedian or discredit him in anyway shape or form, one mentioned a constantly apologizing for getting facts wrong but there wasn't a single thing in the video (Obama's words both ways) they could dispute and a lot of it was over those things. Indefinite detention & a host of other issues. Hell, using the Espionage Act was John Ashcroft's idea & the myth is that is about spies. It was about targeting lefty activist groups, especially those protesting WWI & J. Edgar Hoover used it liberally in fact the Espionage Act is a watered down version of the original versions & the extra stuff J. Edgar Hoover wanted in there. Of course, there is a rush to defend Obama's use of it.

I didn't hate Bush simply because he was wrong. I can give a very long list why but a lot of the same things that caused me to feel this burning hate were over reasons such as indefinite detention, transparency, civil liberties. Nowadays being against the Patriot Act can lead to accusations that you are a Libertarian. I remember being against the Patriot Act used to be a good thing.

At first, I would become offended & hurt that fellow Democrats would support some of Bush's worst policies because of a personality basically. Now I don't care anymore, I lost hope generally with the realization of what the world is rather than any idealistic visions. Certainly something could be achieved short term but saving the world? TPP is very much about geopolitics & its strategy not to mention all the labor the wealthy capitalists want to exploit & abuse. The "cleared advisors" are firms' corporate lawyers & lobbyists Now you have a rush to defend even that, they certainly try to sell it as something else but no matter how much evidence is presented that nobody has worse labor rights than Saudi Arabia or Qatar or Kuwait where Halliburton & KBR have been human trafficking for over a decade violating US law or not even that just the idea that NAFTA or certainly the China free trade deal has brought manufacturing jobs or other jobs in general here when the economies of Malaysia (manufacturing) & Vietnam (huge agriculture industry) I just don't see it as anything but security for US & Japan trade. Especially, considering EU & US initially proposed TPP. Where the F is Europe? See, there aren't telling us everything & this copyright law is controversial for the right reasons. Generic companies will not be able to exist if some American CEO is offended. Not good for them, not good for us but good for those who stand to profit from this agreement.

I'm used to it is basically what I'm saying, but it doesn't make your statement any less true.