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1939

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12. Some perspective
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 09:51 AM
Apr 2015

I am quite a bit older than most here (1939) and I went to college 1957-1961. Factors other than inflation have dramatically increased college costs.

Most of the married faculty lived in on-campus faculty housing and the bachelor faculty lived in a section of the student dorms. Non-tenured assistant professors in the "arts" departments made about $3500 a year (graduating engineers were getting offers from 5K-7K a year). Faculty were also expected to perform a lot of unpaid work for the school like assistant coaching, being timers and judges for athletic events, chaperones for formal dances, and a lot of one on one counseling (when they were not in class, they were expected to be in their offices and available).

Staff and faculty "productivity" has gone way down since then. A lot of the non-teaching staff (and some of the teaching staff) performed multiple jobs and the administrative offices were limited and austere. The Director of Admissions was also an English prof. The Dean of the faculty taught courses. Academic Departments heads also had a teaching load. Most faculty taught 15-18 credits while department heads were expected to tech 9-12 credits.

Textbooks were smaller (usually about 5" x 8" x 1", continued over more courses, and were packed with info. I paid $8.50 new for my surveying textbook which took me through two semesters of surveying and one semester of mapping (I still have it). Textbooks now re huge (9" x 12" x 3&quot , are only good for one semester, contain an awful lot of white space, and get changed from one year to the next so that they cannot be resold.

I visited my granddaughter in college and she took me to the dining hall which was cafeteria style. There must have been a dozen choices with ethnic food areas, grill areas, and health food areas. When i was in college, we ate family style and each table for eight would get a pot of beef stew, a bowl of canned green beans, a plate of bread, and a bowl of pudding (it varied from night to night, but that was typical).



Brilliant post. Thank you! RiverLover Apr 2015 #1
The saying is missing a few words... lapfog_1 Apr 2015 #2
Tax rich people and spend it on infrastructure/jobs programs... Solved Taitertots Apr 2015 #3
I second that. AllyCat Apr 2015 #5
Only one problem... YoungDemCA Apr 2015 #28
I've got 298 problems, but the truth ain't one. Taitertots Apr 2015 #33
That's not just generation X, that's the late end baby boomers too. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #4
The family model is shifting Demeter Apr 2015 #6
"The 401k" HughBeaumont Apr 2015 #14
Simple solution, we used to do it.. mountain grammy Apr 2015 #7
I agree that taxing the wealthy can/should be done ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #19
Keynesian macroeconomics - wages will follow the money Taitertots Apr 2015 #35
I understand the Keynesian stuff ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #37
Is the mulitplier for infrastructure/jobs spending larger than the impact of a tax rate charge? Taitertots Apr 2015 #39
A more equitable tax system would bring in revenue to support mountain grammy Apr 2015 #36
I kn0ow, and agree with, all of that ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #38
True, but as our tax system has become less and less progressive mountain grammy Apr 2015 #41
The 1% are closing the gates-that is all randr Apr 2015 #8
+10 And they have mucho force to deter any personal or property damage. If that fails, appalachiablue Apr 2015 #25
The Illusion is getting too expensive to maintain... annabanana Apr 2015 #9
K & R !!! Thespian2 Apr 2015 #10
It looks that way unfortunately, short of some real movement in a better direction. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #26
They should have included salary numbers for professors on the graph Democat Apr 2015 #11
Some perspective 1939 Apr 2015 #12
I went to the University of Iowa campas about that time to visit a friend. Many of the married jwirr Apr 2015 #15
Professors and ministers 1939 Apr 2015 #17
The University Emphasis is now RESEARCH esp. in Tech and Science/Medicine Demeter Apr 2015 #24
Like the college caf you describe it's been a 30 year reckless drive to excess & consumerism to appalachiablue Apr 2015 #29
"Household" is not a quantitative "Unit of Measurement" over a timespan. Cryptoad Apr 2015 #13
IMO It accelerated when the media began glorifying conspicuous greed and consumption in the 1980s. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #16
"Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a DEMOCRACY are you Buddy? appalachiablue Apr 2015 #31
You don't repair it by reelecting... JayhawkSD Apr 2015 #18
Damn straight. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #40
Taxing the rich is not the complete solution to this problem. Calista241 Apr 2015 #20
We've been undervaluing inflation for decades paulkienitz Apr 2015 #21
PAULKIENITZ NAILS IT Skittles Apr 2015 #42
Excellent observation gordianot Apr 2015 #22
Here's several ideas d_legendary1 Apr 2015 #23
Empty each and every offshore account. Octafish Apr 2015 #27
At least invade the Caymans and put a stop to the legalized tax dodges. HughBeaumont Apr 2015 #30
Agree 100-percent. Octafish Apr 2015 #34
Why repair something when you can rationalize it? Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2015 #32
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