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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 02:18 PM Apr 2015

Arne says parents to blame for test stress. Threatens fed intervention if Opt Outs continue. [View all]

And so Arne Duncan is asserting his power, showing his ignorance about education, and threatening the states that don't stop the Opt Outs.

He must think someone appointed him God of Education.

As opt-out numbers grow, Arne Duncan says feds may have to step in



U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Tuesday that the federal government is obligated to intervene if states fail to address the rising number of students who are boycotting mandated annual exams.

...He also said the tests are “just not a traumatic event” for his children, who attend public school in Virginia.

“It’s just part of most kids’ education growing up,” he said. “Sometimes the adults make a big deal and that creates some trauma for the kids.”

A federal education department spokeswoman said last week that the agency could withhold funding from states if some of their districts have too few students take the exams, but that it has not yet done so because states have addressed the issue on their own.


There are some interesting posts in the comments section.


iCarly • 5 days ago

Arne says that the tests are not stressful to his children. Well, Arne, they're stressful to mine because since my husband got laid off last year, my teaching job has supported our family. Now with NY teachers' jobs tied so heavily to test grades, I face the possibility of losing my job since I teach very low functioning students. My children are stressed out about having their mother lose her job and our family's income based on the testing whims of other kids. So yes, a-hole, the tests are stressful to children depending on what your perspective is. My kids will be refusing NY's math tests this week in protest of the high stakes attached to them with regard to teachers' job evaluations.


Brruinsgirl . iCarly • 5 days ago
His Kids also do not take the same test we are refusing for our children. His kids do not take the SB or the PARCC.


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Lance Hamm Brruinsgirl . • 5 days ago

Neither did Cuomo's, neither do Obama's. Neither do any of the elite's children. No one in the 1% is subject to this, and yet the 1% is dictating it.


This post in the comments is really good. I think Arne Duncan has opened a big old can of worms here.

yarissa • 5 days ago

When a public policy begins to crumble, like this one is, the right thing is to sit down and think "what are we doing wrong?" and not "how are we going to beat people into submission?"

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong approach, Arne Duncan!

High stakes standardized testing has been not proven to be an accurate measure of what a student can do and how ready he/she is becoming for adulthood, but it HAS been proven to go against the affective filter hypothesis (among others educational theories and best practices) which states that students do best in a stress-free environment. Students also do well when they are slightly challenged , but it has been shown that CC and these standards and tests are above the Zone of Proximal Development (Vygotsky), which means they are too far away from where the students are to really respond. 4-5 hours of testing is also completely inappropriate pedagogically and developmentally for children in primary grades.

Take a step back, reassess and come talk to education experts and GET IT RIGHT instead of pushing on and admitting you made a mistake... isn't that what learning is all about? We learn from FAILURES!
Failing leads to improvement, but only if you're brave enough to admit you have failed.

Are you brave enough, Arne Duncan?


(My apologies for any typo, this page on my phone isn't great)



IMO Arne may be starting a battle he can not win. Time for President Obama to rein him in or fire him. He is threatening a war with teachers, parents, students, and states.




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that pic of him seriously shows how incompetent and dispicable bbgrunt Apr 2015 #1
You're right. Unknown Beatle Apr 2015 #14
Really - come on now. When we post something in DU erronis Apr 2015 #21
despicable and malevolent is right. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #69
I adore your long-continuing work TransitJohn Apr 2015 #2
........ madfloridian Apr 2015 #44
God I am ignorant about all this, I am not sure what Common Core is or these tests NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #3
It's also a way to destroy public education ... ananda Apr 2015 #5
Exactly...So the testing is used to grade and possibly punish teachers AND schools? NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #7
Mu niece took her children out of public school and is home-schooling them. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #25
Arne should Leave To Spend More Time With His Family phantom power Apr 2015 #4
I think he is the president's single worst appointment, QC Apr 2015 #6
Abso freakin lutely! liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #70
my disabled child just finished taking them. neither she nor her teachers msanthrope Apr 2015 #8
" these are teachers with tenure and a Union"? wtf? progressoid Apr 2015 #11
Msanthrope is a "new democrat". This is how she rolls. nt DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #18
my disabled child and other disabled children like her had to fight msanthrope Apr 2015 #30
So, progressoid Apr 2015 #35
so you're just going to gloss over the fact that you owe msanthrope Apr 2015 #37
I never said your daughter was a waste of time and resources. progressoid Apr 2015 #45
Well....once my daughter counted, the teacher in her favorite subject msanthrope Apr 2015 #56
Dishonest accusation, the poster said nothing of the sort. TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #55
Yep. That was a cheap shot. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #65
Allow me interupt your bull$hit... brentspeak Apr 2015 #41
That train is never late to the station. NT. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #50
And some of us are fighting to have our kids recognized. You don't speak for msanthrope Apr 2015 #54
Withhold money? That should go a long ways to make education better. jwirr Apr 2015 #9
His handlers must be loosing money. blackspade Apr 2015 #10
So Arne, how's that Race to the Top doing? progressoid Apr 2015 #12
It's more like Race to the Top... Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #61
Standardized Tests for Standardized Thinking Octafish Apr 2015 #13
Yep, and not all students have standardized minds. madfloridian Apr 2015 #20
Well, there is a place for those students! AngryDem001 Apr 2015 #32
K&R. Arne is starting a battle he can not win. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #15
Question for you madfloridian Dream Girl Apr 2015 #16
Teachers should be evaluated by their fellow teachers. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #23
I agree wholeheartedly! LiberalCatholic Apr 2015 #67
Did you mean "teachers"? chervilant Apr 2015 #24
Yes teachers - Sorry for the typo, was on my ipad. Dream Girl Apr 2015 #53
The bigotry you decry chervilant Apr 2015 #60
I am a teacher in Massachusetts. LiberalCatholic Apr 2015 #31
If I'm an art teacher, should I be assessed from the math and reading scores? Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #49
No. LiberalCatholic Apr 2015 #66
Arne has always been awful. bigwillq Apr 2015 #17
It's this type of crap that gives credence Exilednight Apr 2015 #19
I suggest that Arne Duncan look into the Da Silva method for learning. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #22
Most of the political elite and the financial elite send their children to schools where they are stillwaiting Apr 2015 #43
Ain't that the truth? SusanCalvin Apr 2015 #52
Well, mad, I think you should have a "Beware of Contents" caution in your title... chervilant Apr 2015 #26
It's his near total lack of lips that freaks me out. QC Apr 2015 #27
And, did you notice his indefensible use of his own children chervilant Apr 2015 #28
Par for the course. QC Apr 2015 #39
So tired of the comments on Republican's looks here. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #48
How many times does it have to be said? americannightmare Apr 2015 #29
Fuck Arne Duncan, and his tests too. Autumn Apr 2015 #33
My kid doesn't stress over these tests, but they're still warping her education. winter is coming Apr 2015 #34
Being dismissive of concerns ejbr Apr 2015 #36
Isn't it? He's gone from blaming teachers to those leading the opt out...parents, students. madfloridian Apr 2015 #63
My wife is a teacher... gregcrawford Apr 2015 #38
From time to time, one or the other of my grandchildren talks about her upcoming standardized tests lexington filly Apr 2015 #40
Did you know that these high stake tests are NOT based on classroom curriculum? madfloridian Apr 2015 #46
Sorry....but my kid just took them. That's not true. She saw very little she hadn't msanthrope Apr 2015 #57
He's horrible. Done so much damage to our public schools. Hideous. nt stillwaiting Apr 2015 #42
How Pearson’s Common Core Tests Are Designed to Fail Your Children madfloridian Apr 2015 #47
How/why the fuck was an authoritarian shitheel like this hifiguy Apr 2015 #51
Teacher here. I'm not evaled by test scores. The tests go on for 6 days. Awful. Just awful. lindysalsagal Apr 2015 #58
Remember raid on Ken Wright 2011. A blogger's tongue in cheek (sort of) take on Arne's latest. madfloridian Apr 2015 #59
Kenneth Wright pleaded guilty to his part in a massive student loan theft scheme, madflo. Nice msanthrope Apr 2015 #62
Duncan is a prime example of what happens when you let an education "administrator" run things hobbit709 Apr 2015 #64
Just did a search on the words "Arne threatens"...he's done a lot of that. Link to search results. madfloridian Apr 2015 #68
How the hell can Obama think this bully is good for our children? liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #71
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