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chervilant

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24. Did you mean "teachers"?

Mon Apr 27, 2015, 04:07 PM

Apr 2015

What do you think, DG?

Should teachers be evaluated? If yes, how?

Should schools be "assessed"? If yes, how?

Do you think standardized tests can provide accurate measures of our children's progress? We've had standardized testing for how many years now? And, how do our students rank internationally?

Do you think standardized tests can provide accurate measures of our teachers' abilities? Just when did this nation's teachers become the reason our schools are failing? What about the copious amounts of research that point to poverty as a key factor in our children's education?

BTW, I know from personal experience that standardized tests are not accurate measures, and I'm confident I'm not the only teacher who can say that. Also, I have tremendous respect for madfloridian, and I appreciate her advocacy for teachers and for our younglings.

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Arne says parents to blame for test stress. Threatens fed intervention if Opt Outs continue. [View all] madfloridian Apr 2015 OP

that pic of him seriously shows how incompetent and dispicable bbgrunt Apr 2015 #1

You're right. Unknown Beatle Apr 2015 #14

Really - come on now. When we post something in DU erronis Apr 2015 #21

despicable and malevolent is right. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #69

I adore your long-continuing work TransitJohn Apr 2015 #2

........ madfloridian Apr 2015 #44

God I am ignorant about all this, I am not sure what Common Core is or these tests NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #3

It's also a way to destroy public education ... ananda Apr 2015 #5

Exactly...So the testing is used to grade and possibly punish teachers AND schools? NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #7

Mu niece took her children out of public school and is home-schooling them. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #25

Arne should Leave To Spend More Time With His Family phantom power Apr 2015 #4

I think he is the president's single worst appointment, QC Apr 2015 #6

Abso freakin lutely! liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #70

my disabled child just finished taking them. neither she nor her teachers msanthrope Apr 2015 #8

" these are teachers with tenure and a Union"? wtf? progressoid Apr 2015 #11

Msanthrope is a "new democrat". This is how she rolls. nt DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #18

my disabled child and other disabled children like her had to fight msanthrope Apr 2015 #30

So, progressoid Apr 2015 #35

so you're just going to gloss over the fact that you owe msanthrope Apr 2015 #37

I never said your daughter was a waste of time and resources. progressoid Apr 2015 #45

Well....once my daughter counted, the teacher in her favorite subject msanthrope Apr 2015 #56

Dishonest accusation, the poster said nothing of the sort. TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #55

Yep. That was a cheap shot. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #65

Allow me interupt your bull$hit... brentspeak Apr 2015 #41

That train is never late to the station. NT. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #50

And some of us are fighting to have our kids recognized. You don't speak for msanthrope Apr 2015 #54

Withhold money? That should go a long ways to make education better. jwirr Apr 2015 #9

His handlers must be loosing money. blackspade Apr 2015 #10

So Arne, how's that Race to the Top doing? progressoid Apr 2015 #12

It's more like Race to the Top... Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #61

Standardized Tests for Standardized Thinking Octafish Apr 2015 #13

Yep, and not all students have standardized minds. madfloridian Apr 2015 #20

Well, there is a place for those students! AngryDem001 Apr 2015 #32

K&R. Arne is starting a battle he can not win. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #15

Question for you madfloridian Dream Girl Apr 2015 #16

Teachers should be evaluated by their fellow teachers. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #23

I agree wholeheartedly! LiberalCatholic Apr 2015 #67

Did you mean "teachers"? chervilant Apr 2015 #24

Yes teachers - Sorry for the typo, was on my ipad. Dream Girl Apr 2015 #53

The bigotry you decry chervilant Apr 2015 #60

I am a teacher in Massachusetts. LiberalCatholic Apr 2015 #31

If I'm an art teacher, should I be assessed from the math and reading scores? Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #49

No. LiberalCatholic Apr 2015 #66

Arne has always been awful. bigwillq Apr 2015 #17

It's this type of crap that gives credence Exilednight Apr 2015 #19

I suggest that Arne Duncan look into the Da Silva method for learning. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #22

Most of the political elite and the financial elite send their children to schools where they are stillwaiting Apr 2015 #43

Ain't that the truth? SusanCalvin Apr 2015 #52

Well, mad, I think you should have a "Beware of Contents" caution in your title... chervilant Apr 2015 #26

It's his near total lack of lips that freaks me out. QC Apr 2015 #27

And, did you notice his indefensible use of his own children chervilant Apr 2015 #28

Par for the course. QC Apr 2015 #39

So tired of the comments on Republican's looks here. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #48

How many times does it have to be said? americannightmare Apr 2015 #29

Fuck Arne Duncan, and his tests too. Autumn Apr 2015 #33

My kid doesn't stress over these tests, but they're still warping her education. winter is coming Apr 2015 #34

Being dismissive of concerns ejbr Apr 2015 #36

Isn't it? He's gone from blaming teachers to those leading the opt out...parents, students. madfloridian Apr 2015 #63

My wife is a teacher... gregcrawford Apr 2015 #38

From time to time, one or the other of my grandchildren talks about her upcoming standardized tests lexington filly Apr 2015 #40

Did you know that these high stake tests are NOT based on classroom curriculum? madfloridian Apr 2015 #46

Sorry....but my kid just took them. That's not true. She saw very little she hadn't msanthrope Apr 2015 #57

He's horrible. Done so much damage to our public schools. Hideous. nt stillwaiting Apr 2015 #42

How Pearson�s Common Core Tests Are Designed to Fail Your Children madfloridian Apr 2015 #47

How/why the fuck was an authoritarian shitheel like this hifiguy Apr 2015 #51

Teacher here. I'm not evaled by test scores. The tests go on for 6 days. Awful. Just awful. lindysalsagal Apr 2015 #58

Remember raid on Ken Wright 2011. A blogger's tongue in cheek (sort of) take on Arne's latest. madfloridian Apr 2015 #59

Kenneth Wright pleaded guilty to his part in a massive student loan theft scheme, madflo. Nice msanthrope Apr 2015 #62

Duncan is a prime example of what happens when you let an education "administrator" run things hobbit709 Apr 2015 #64

Just did a search on the words "Arne threatens"...he's done a lot of that. Link to search results. madfloridian Apr 2015 #68

How the hell can Obama think this bully is good for our children? liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #71