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sabrina 1

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56. Yes, now that we know about this horror that is part of this Trade Agreement and since
Mon Apr 27, 2015, 05:39 PM
Apr 2015

Obama has not denied it, think about the laws we the people could be sued over.

Let's say we get a $15.00 an hr minimum wage eg.

The Fast Tracking of TPP passes. Congress, unable to remove any bad stuff, or add any good stuff, votes 'yes'.

6,000 Global Corporations are now capable of suing the US in a Corporate Tribunal (anyone have a clue how that works?) run by Corporate Lawyers, where no doubt, the interests of the American people will be a priority!! , because you never know, some people might actually believe that!

So they come here and establish some businesses. From poorer countries where they are accustomed to paying Workers .60c per hr.

Now they have to either bring their own workers (is THAT covered in the TPP?) who cannot live on such wages in this country, so how WOULD they live here, slave labor, camps like they have in Dubai eg?

Or, they may have been told they can take advantage of our Private Prison System where almost FREE labor is available to Corporations (keep those prisons full!)

Or, they can sue the American people and we the workers, will have to pay them because of our Minimum Wage.

I wonder if the President would address some of these questions?


Because we can only go by what we know. I am going by what we know, and am imagining a nightmare filled with lawsuits, costing the American untold amounts of tax dollars in order to try to protect our hard fought for laws.

And in the end, overwhelmed by the cost, weakening those laws. I can hear it now from Congressional Members : 'Look, we have to be pragmatic. We can't keep paying out this amount of money in settlements, We have to do SOMETHIG. Since we belong to the Reality Based Community, the truth is that the minimum wage we have now hasto go! Sorry morons, but thanks for the support in getting this passed, we love you!'

If we are wrong, then Mr President show us where we are wrong or else, YOU are the one who is wrong.

Presuming President Obama is correct, lovemydog Apr 2015 #1
one allows congress to go thru it and modify it where needed nt msongs Apr 2015 #4
What did we suggest as Democrats, when Bush asked for the same thing in 2007 sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #5
How do you think we can fix the trade deficit we have since NAFTA? lovemydog Apr 2015 #6
First of all, the trade deal HAS been negotiated in secret. But our Reps on the Trade Commission sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #17
Plus infinity! Level playing field implies we all have the same standard of living... cascadiance Apr 2015 #28
Yes, now that we know about this horror that is part of this Trade Agreement and since sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #56
Thanks for this post sabrina 1. lovemydog Apr 2015 #52
Thank you, and yes, a minimum wage IS important. However, much as I agree with that, the TPP sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #54
Strengthen unions and start following German practices better? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #33
Yeah, I think that's a big one. lovemydog Apr 2015 #51
KNR! JaneyVee Apr 2015 #2
What did you think of it JaneyVee? lovemydog Apr 2015 #3
This bill is not like the old trade bills - from what we have seen so far it is about profits for jwirr Apr 2015 #43
The nail in the coffin of the middle class AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #7
The President says it will help strengthen the middle class. lovemydog Apr 2015 #10
Can you tell us what is in this Trade Deal that will help the Middle Class? Other than sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #25
No I can't. But I don't think we're ever going to completely lovemydog Apr 2015 #50
I'm not sure what you are asking 'without the trade deal'. Do you want us to assume sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #53
It's easy AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #59
The President is wrong. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #34
Same line of crap was used to sucker us into NAFTA. 99Forever Apr 2015 #35
Bingo Populist_Prole Apr 2015 #48
zz recho2com Apr 2015 #8
What a great first post. lovemydog Apr 2015 #11
does the tpa bill that just got voted through house and Senate committees cali Apr 2015 #9
I'm sorry cali, I don't know. lovemydog Apr 2015 #14
"Trade Deals that Put American Workers First" marmar Apr 2015 #12
Are you referring to NAFTA lovemydog Apr 2015 #15
I believe he is sincere, and I'll tell you what... joshcryer Apr 2015 #13
Thanks for the kind reply joshcryer. lovemydog Apr 2015 #16
It shouldn't affect the US (IP-wise). joshcryer Apr 2015 #18
Based on what you're saying, lovemydog Apr 2015 #19
That's the thing. joshcryer Apr 2015 #23
Don't understand all you are saying but it seems to me that this would be a way of keeping the jwirr Apr 2015 #46
How about putting Americans that are unemployed but seeking work first? Rex Apr 2015 #20
I was just thinking the same thing Rex. lovemydog Apr 2015 #21
Totally agree, the argument that wage increases hurts overall profit if crap and needs Rex Apr 2015 #22
Mr. President, stop renegotiating NAFTA (and the FTA's with Australia, Chile, Peru and Singapore). pampango Apr 2015 #24
Do you know whether or not our Trade Deficit has been addressed in the TPP? sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #26
If it enforces higher labor and environmental standards on trading partners then it should address pampango Apr 2015 #29
So we don't know. Which is why Democrats are correct to oppose it. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #32
Your faith in congress to make this a better agreement, if given the chance, is intriguing. pampango Apr 2015 #38
What do you think of Obama's 'level of bi-partisanship'? Thanks for the slam, this is what has made sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #40
"Most Republicans support Obama on this, while most Democrats do not." Not true. pampango Apr 2015 #44
Where are you getting that 'democrats support fast track'? Unions oppose it, even sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #49
"Only Democrats that identify as “liberal” strongly favor the idea. ... Republican majority oppose . pampango Apr 2015 #58
As if you aren't an unflinching supporter of the un-regnegotiated NAFTA, WTO. Romulox Apr 2015 #27
Kudos to your continued focus on discussing policies not posters. Many have missed pampango Apr 2015 #30
Um, you're doing the same thing. Right now. Romulox Apr 2015 #36
Some days I'm a little slow. I blame it on age. Thanks for your concern. n/t pampango Apr 2015 #39
Also, notice you couldn't dispute my first post. SUBJECT CHANGE TIME! nt Romulox Apr 2015 #37
I try not to respond to posts about posters including ones about me. pampango Apr 2015 #41
Your "opinions" are crystal clear. That means you aren't doing a good job Romulox Apr 2015 #42
Great Revealer of True Motives and Beliefs strikes another blow for truth, justice and pampango Apr 2015 #45
Workers. Right. Marr Apr 2015 #31
Translation of American workers = the 1% ananda Apr 2015 #47
Thank you lovemydog.... sheshe2 Apr 2015 #55
You're welcome my friend. I'm still opposed the TPP. lovemydog Apr 2015 #57
I support the TPP and here's why . . . Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #61
Unions put American workers first AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #60
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