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1. sorry, I oppose violence

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Mon Apr 27, 2015, 05:53 PM

Apr 2015

And mobs are not a good thing. Innocent people often get hurt.

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Here come the usual looting and rioting doesn't solve anything comments. [View all] trumad Apr 2015 OP

sorry, I oppose violence cali Apr 2015 #1

You're talking about the cops, right? trumad Apr 2015 #2

no cali Apr 2015 #7

Sure sounds like the cops... trumad Apr 2015 #14

how is this difficult to understand cali Apr 2015 #26

I abhor violence but I understand explosions after people have endured years of oppression. Gormy Cuss Apr 2015 #41

LIke I have said and will keep saying, reverse the roles, all of it, past 200 yrs NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #77

Sure enough XemaSab Apr 2015 #195

I don't understand.... Stellar Apr 2015 #215

My point is that the poster I was responding to XemaSab Apr 2015 #217

Got'cha! Stellar Apr 2015 #218

Um... what do you think happened to Reginald Denny? XemaSab Apr 2015 #219

It's good that he and Rodney King didn't get killed. Stellar Apr 2015 #220

Define "lynching" XemaSab Apr 2015 #221

I forgot to add my pic of a lynching in the previous post. Stellar Apr 2015 #222

So it only involves hanging? XemaSab Apr 2015 #223

I looked it up and it says.... Stellar Apr 2015 #226

Should the President borrow the National Guard from the Governor? kentuck Apr 2015 #3

honestly, I don't know cali Apr 2015 #12

Let's face it, the state is better at war on its citizens than the citizens are at war on the state. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #42

I do, too. And I know that this is about the vandalism of a CVS store. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #22

Out of work -- but not just for a while RVN VET Apr 2015 #86

Thank you, RVN VET. It's easy for people from the comfort of hundreds of miles away on a laptop.... NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #89

Because that's made any difference? marym625 Apr 2015 #96

That community, I believe, sorely needs an organizational body... NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #106

like in Ferguson? marym625 Apr 2015 #110

How will this round of violence help? NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #177

I do marym625 Apr 2015 #180

Thank you. I'm thinking that solutions lay with coalitions. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #181

amen to that! marym625 Apr 2015 #183

Thank you. I was just 840high Apr 2015 #108

And I dont think the Nat Guard was needed in NY for the Eric Garner protests 7962 Apr 2015 #165

NYC isn't Baltimore Depaysement Apr 2015 #182

Liberals value human rights... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #92

As do I. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #104

Had the police not killed another unarmed black youth, MineralMan Apr 2015 #107

This is what conservative and/or scared white people want to hear. ananda Apr 2015 #4

+100 freshwest Apr 2015 #61

Plus 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 + one more NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #82

Thread win blackspade Apr 2015 #130

Well said. mountain grammy Apr 2015 #133

Talk all you want... Oktober Apr 2015 #134

They just dont get it, do they? Sometimes reality doesnt follow the narrative. 7962 Apr 2015 #166

You think there's only that one 'message'? lovemydog Apr 2015 #224

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2015 #135

Spot on Ananda madokie Apr 2015 #163

We are not a war or fighting for independence LynnTTT Apr 2015 #5

Fighting for independence? trumad Apr 2015 #9

While I am not a fan of violence of any kind ... etherealtruth Apr 2015 #27

That is so true. Chemisse Apr 2015 #91

You are as mad at police violence as anybody else? I know I am not, as a white male. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #84

+1,000 nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #159

yeah, urban riots have an awesome record of improving community life nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #6

I don't see how being hunted down and killed by the police is a better alternative. n/t 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #8

hyperbole and straw argument, nice combo nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #13

THERE MUST BE ORDER! ORDER AT ALL COSTS!!! Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #85

Word! trumad Apr 2015 #10

Well what does then? trumad Apr 2015 #20

what else was tried in Baltimore? geek tragedy Apr 2015 #24

What else was tried in America? Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #53

These issues are frequently local government issues Trekologer Apr 2015 #187

Yep, local governments matter a great deal, and are often ignored. I've even seen some here dismiss Chathamization Apr 2015 #197

many people around the world have had it with the status quo chalmers Apr 2015 #67

A violent confrontation between Tibetans and the Chinese army would be rather geek tragedy Apr 2015 #69

So would a violent confrontation between the omnipotent British Empire of the late 18th-century... Chan790 Apr 2015 #200

If you think really hard, I'm sure you will be able to come up with at least geek tragedy Apr 2015 #201

Not sure human decency or respect for civilian life are "major logistical challenges" strictly? n/t Chan790 Apr 2015 #202

You weren't a geography major, were you? nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #204

No. Chan790 Apr 2015 #210

a lot easier than marching an army across the ocean nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #211

Ghandi was violent? LOL KittyWampus Apr 2015 #203

Two points? Chan790 Apr 2015 #209

Because Freddie Gray is an isolated incident. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #158

Now the CVS workers are without 840high Apr 2015 #112

more so than bowing to authority and accepting police brutality.... blackspade Apr 2015 #137

Because those are the only two options? nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #140

I have a hard time equating a smiling person running out of a store with a trash bag full of stolen cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #11

That simple for you eh? trumad Apr 2015 #16

You can put me on record right here and now as believing Mr. Gray was murdered. ON PURPOSE. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #25

Really? You think they were stone-faced-sober while they soaked the tea? I bet they were jubilant. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #49

You win. I didn't notice the jubilation in the painting. They were having a blast. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #57

crowd was happy because tea dumpers dressed as Indians so Indians would be blamed & killed Sunlei Apr 2015 #111

Yeah, there is more than one school of thought on that. I've read it was symbolism; as the Mohawk cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #118

provocateurs in costumes. seen that since then too. elehhhhna Apr 2015 #145

come on, looting the 7-11 shows the NM_Birder Apr 2015 #23

Where's a WalMart when ya need it Politicalboi Apr 2015 #37

better selection than 7-11 too. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #38

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #186

What's stopping you ? NM_Birder Apr 2015 #214

odds are there is one within an hour of you...if your lucky snooper2 Apr 2015 #225

Thanks goodness the 7-11 owner's spine wasn't partially severed. That would be bad. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #206

clever........ NM_Birder Apr 2015 #213

We don't always agree but 100% with you on this one. It is pure stealing. That is all. nt Logical Apr 2015 #76

And somehow it's being justified by posting paintings of the Boston Tea Party. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #90

I agree, he was murdered. But people looting make everyone forget about him. His family is... Logical Apr 2015 #94

I've been going back and forth between CNN, MSNBC, and even my local news here in L.A. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #98

Wow, that is terrible. When protests turn to riots people forget the protests. nt Logical Apr 2015 #100

Imagine how that and setting 840high Apr 2015 #114

When you care more about dead black people than a CVS jeff47 Apr 2015 #142

Don't presume to know what 840high Apr 2015 #170

Unrest brings about change, sometimes not in a good way but change nonetheless. Rex Apr 2015 #15

Yep--- trumad Apr 2015 #18

Agree Rex... AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #97

It will bring change all right. NobodyHere Apr 2015 #99

My guess is NOLALady Apr 2015 #162

But trumad the protesters aren't dressed right for the occasion... tenderfoot Apr 2015 #17

You just discovered the greatest political slogan ever created. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #19

I lived through the unrest in the 60's and people are upaloopa Apr 2015 #21

OMFG!!! VScott Apr 2015 #28

I take it the mobs haven't made it to your home or place of business as of this writing. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #29

I find most with his/her attitude delete_bush Apr 2015 #70

Mixed in with a dash of, "Let's you and him fight." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #75

If we had a foreign enemy to fight, sure LittleBlue Apr 2015 #30

creative destruction? mopinko Apr 2015 #31

If you take a look back in the history of this country you might notice that it's the ONLY The_Casual_Observer Apr 2015 #32

The Rodney King riots didn't solve police brutality borondongo Apr 2015 #60

Try googling stonewall riots. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #144

Then let's take out the police dept Politicalboi Apr 2015 #33

Since surrounding the BLM and Las Vegas Police then pointing guns at them worked for the Bundy's... 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #34

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #35

They never had any support from white suburbia n/t 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #36

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #40

As this is a systemic problem, do you feel the entire country should riot and loot? bluesbassman Apr 2015 #39

We're stuck in a rock and a hard place at this point 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #50

So looting and rioting as a form of activism is ok as long as we contain it to the hood? bluesbassman Apr 2015 #72

...^ that 840high Apr 2015 #116

Addressed how then? blackspade Apr 2015 #154

What exactly is your goal? The Boston Tea Party had a goal davidn3600 Apr 2015 #43

I forgot that the American Revolution... tonedevil Apr 2015 #113

The Loyalists in the new US lost everything. Ilsa Apr 2015 #120

And here come the threads romanic Apr 2015 #44

Maybe tell that to the people of Detroit. former9thward Apr 2015 #46

Also tell that to the people of Los Angeles. 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #51

LA did but Watts didn't. former9thward Apr 2015 #59

I made this point once romanic Apr 2015 #66

Well, yeah. JoeyT Apr 2015 #47

Kids looking for free stuff realFedUp Apr 2015 #48

your post disgusts me. it's one thing to understand the pain cali Apr 2015 #51

You being disgusted is what is intended. upaloopa Apr 2015 #54

You are very wrong. I've 840high Apr 2015 #117

Yep. I feel disgust for the police who caused this when the severed Freddie's spine and did nothing Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #141

Seems unlike you I can 840high Apr 2015 #169

I think you, along with many other folks, are suddenly paying attention to Baltimore because Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #171

You are wrong. Good night. 840high Apr 2015 #175

+1000 CAG Apr 2015 #192

Patience Ms. Yertle Apr 2015 #207

your post digests me trumad Apr 2015 #62

I hope there is no one trapped inside the CVS burning down right now. Bonx Apr 2015 #55

Especially since the "protesters" delete_bush Apr 2015 #81

Are you implying the British solved the problem at hand? borondongo Apr 2015 #56

Spot on, Trumad. 99Forever Apr 2015 #58

Rioting is the voice of the unheard.. trumad Apr 2015 #64

Looting is to steal shit. Pure and simple. nt Logical Apr 2015 #74

I hope parents of these kids.... realFedUp Apr 2015 #63

Ya like the continued violation of their civil rights doesnt. trumad Apr 2015 #65

Individual rights and justice realFedUp Apr 2015 #102

Except for the people who committed murder. jeff47 Apr 2015 #148

"This stuff lives with the kid for the rest of their lives." NOLALady Apr 2015 #167

burn, baby, burn. KG Apr 2015 #68

So how is setting a CVS on fire helpful? Lobo27 Apr 2015 #71

Bullshit. When protests and looting happen, people remember the looting. nt Logical Apr 2015 #73

Turned over to Faux kimbutgar Apr 2015 #78

Can't they rope off the streets and call a curfew? realFedUp Apr 2015 #79

all violence does is to kill more innocent people beachbum bob Apr 2015 #80

Nothing like looting and burning down buildings to solve social injustice. Lil Missy Apr 2015 #83

Yeah, stealing a TV is what is inexcusable. NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #88

Now the lazy and skittish rioters VScott Apr 2015 #103

You like thieves? I don't. 840high Apr 2015 #119

dislike thieves. Hate cops who kill innocents. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #138

Oh lord...will we survive the people who look at 200 yrs of violence towards a people and all NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #168

Silly post. If that was your 840high Apr 2015 #172

Yep, some folks are so insulated, privileged, they are clueless NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #173

So, that's why they burned down the CVS!! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #160

More riot pictures: ret5hd Apr 2015 #87

Looks like we were thinking the same thing marym625 Apr 2015 #93

This is the expected result. Maedhros Apr 2015 #95

Good thread Trumad, AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #101

Right. Because it *totally* does solve stuff. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #105

where will the dead black people get bandaids for Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #146

For me it is very difficult to make the distinction. I am glad that the Revolution happened. But I jwirr Apr 2015 #109

Looting is stupid. cwydro Apr 2015 #115

Killing unarmed black people is stupid Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #122

Agreed. However. cwydro Apr 2015 #125

And what do the white leaders of Baltimore have to say about this? nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #129

I have no idea. cwydro Apr 2015 #139

Perhaps people like the mayor of Baltimore are simply politicians who happened to be black Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #149

I said the black leaders of Baltimore cwydro Apr 2015 #161

Bravo Kilgore Apr 2015 #216

The black mayor spoke against it. 840high Apr 2015 #189

And... Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #193

Go find out. 840high Apr 2015 #194

I noticed that most of the cops who kill unarmed black people are white. Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #196

+1 bravenak Apr 2015 #198

Carry that shit to the hoods of the people that support the and take comfort in the blue gang's shit TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #121

Riots are the inevitable result of ignoring social structural problems. blackspade Apr 2015 #123

Perception can be misleading og1 Apr 2015 #124

peaceful protest. get the criminals out. elehhhhna Apr 2015 #126

How effective is the Baltimore Mayor. realFedUp Apr 2015 #127

Won't solve anything, but it sure will... PosterChild Apr 2015 #128

Jobs for the young? realFedUp Apr 2015 #131

Yes, how dare they care less about their jobs than being killed by the police! (nt) jeff47 Apr 2015 #150

Fuc king up shit of those who are not involved is justified? liberal N proud Apr 2015 #132

...^ that 840high Apr 2015 #190

GOOD JOBS - GOOD EDUCATION - CHANGE SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2015 #136

The mayor just called them "Thugs", feel stupid yet? nt Logical Apr 2015 #143

Proving, once and for all, namecalling never works!! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #151

They are not protesters. They are the opposite of protesters. And the media now is covering them.... Logical Apr 2015 #157

But what if "fucking things up" doesn't bring about the result we all want . . . markpkessinger Apr 2015 #147

I think you are right Egnever Apr 2015 #184

Apparently NobodyHere Apr 2015 #152

THAT is just stupid. RandySF Apr 2015 #153

The police are the problem, the police are the problem.. mountain grammy Apr 2015 #155

Press Conference For Freddie Apr 2015 #156

The only thing wrong with these riots is MyNameGoesHere Apr 2015 #164

Perhaps the stores should send their reps tavernier Apr 2015 #174

No... you see, the Boston Tea Party was a tax revolt by mostly well-to-do people.` enki23 Apr 2015 #176

thank you for this post and perspective dembotoz Apr 2015 #178

http://www.civilrights.org/archives/2009/06/449-stonewall.html AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #179

I think the several people here who have cited the 'stonewall riots' may be the ones PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #205

Ah yes, I always wanted to be lectured by sanctimonious pricks. backscatter712 Apr 2015 #185

They do ignore you trumad Apr 2015 #188

You don't destroy where you live. It's 840high Apr 2015 #191

Care to share the steps YOU'VE taken? brooklynite Apr 2015 #199

I think it takes a special kind of 1st world cocoon of privilege, video games and fast food LanternWaste Apr 2015 #208

World of difference between the Boston Tea Party Mike Daniels Apr 2015 #212