We're well on our way to a republican president in 2016

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112. It's not about "bastions."

That bullshit thinking is part of hte problem. "Well, Conservatives won that state, i guess we'll have to run conservatives there!"

It's about the candidates running. it might not register to some posters here, but you can't throw a right-wing toad at liberal voters and then snort about "well it's a democrat, you better vote for it!" becuase voters do not work that way. I guarantee you, easily half of the people like you demanding absolute unswerving party loyalty, if presented with a conservative democrat or a liberal outsider, will go for the outsider once the screen of the voting booth is pulled. Because peopel vote according to principles. Is it better to have an anti-gay, anti-abortion, jesus-is-my-governor Democrat, or to give a an outsider who actually emboies liberal principles a one-vote shot?

With the exception of the most hard-boiled party loyalists here, and the clump of trolls posing as them, the answer will always be hte latter, because voters worry about ethics. Principle. Standards.

You take your worry about - god fucking forbid - "lefty liberals" and you keep it somewhere warm, snug, and safe, okay?