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211. Why do you think this document is significant of anything?

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 02:20 AM

Apr 2015

It's been established that humane euthanasia is part of what they do. They'll tell you that. I posted their response to this and you ignored it. You ignore everything that doesn't suit your framing.

I may not agree with everything PETA does but I do believe they're well-intentioned and there's no question they've done a lot of good for animals. They also provide extremely helpful resources to people wishing to adopt a vegan diet (they were personally helpful to me in this regard).

Are we to believe YOUR impassioned attacks on PETA stem from your own deep affection and concern for animals? I mean, since you're so OUTRAGED that they euthanize former pets? Do you really think anyone's going to believe that in a million years, based on your posts here?

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PETA slams Al Gore for �hypocrisy and sheer laziness� for not limiting Live Earth festival food to v [View all] DonViejo Apr 2015 OP

Oh sure. So what are the other guests supposed to eat? yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #1

Because meat production is incredibly damaging to the environment JaneyVee Apr 2015 #5

Does not have anything to do with banning it yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #9

But its an environmental concert, besides... JaneyVee Apr 2015 #28

I think most attendees are glad to have a variety of foods yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #45

And now, due to the inventiveness of chefs/cooks, there is a huge variety of vegan cuisines- KittyWampus Apr 2015 #58

I'm sitting in a great vegetarian restaurant right now! Later: Venison burgers! Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #85

So why not have both Travis_0004 Apr 2015 #202

And those of us that can't eat dbackjon Apr 2015 #92

+1000 blackspade Apr 2015 #130

Tofu is much more environmentally friendly than meat. Unvanguard Apr 2015 #150

But it is a matter of degrees dbackjon Apr 2015 #153

And the magnitude of harm from meat is much greater. Unvanguard Apr 2015 #160

Almost all of the soy grown on earth chernabog Apr 2015 #162

Which brings up the argument... Adrahil Apr 2015 #188

I make spicy vegan sausage that my friends don't know is vegan until I tell them. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #57

That is your view still_one Apr 2015 #32

That is scientific consensus. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #44

Normally at these things the food is already made yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #46

Are you being serious? chernabog Apr 2015 #76

I Doubt they are making it themselves yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #79

Someone had to make it! chernabog Apr 2015 #82

Which is great so instead of going to waste they will now be eaten. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #100

I'm sorry that you are missing the point. chernabog Apr 2015 #101

I am sorry but we will just have to Agee to disagree yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #105

Take Away meat? chernabog Apr 2015 #107

I won't. It hasn't arrived yet though. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #109

Does that include all the fixings? evirus Apr 2015 #62

sweet, water is good for you! snooper2 Apr 2015 #66

lets do the math on your science NM_Birder Apr 2015 #120

It's not just the water the cow drinks chernabog Apr 2015 #124

LOL, are you serious ? NM_Birder Apr 2015 #132

Free range cows use much more water chernabog Apr 2015 #135

So I win...... and my victory is all the meat I can eat. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #137

No chernabog Apr 2015 #138

I'll let it go,... just a funnin witch ya NM_Birder Apr 2015 #140

say what? that makes no sense whatsoever. Kali Apr 2015 #189

Here's why chernabog Apr 2015 #191

wrong Kali Apr 2015 #192

My position has always been anti cruelty chernabog Apr 2015 #194

yet you throw out wild claims that are jsut factually wrong Kali Apr 2015 #200

Wow. You really think that figure represents *only* the amount of water a cow drinks? Sheldon Cooper Apr 2015 #129

600 galons its a wild ass guess used by a few, to support NM_Birder Apr 2015 #136

It takes over 600 gallons of water to yield 123 walnuts. pnwmom Apr 2015 #126

I would rather die, than live in a world NM_Birder Apr 2015 #139

Omnivores can eat vegan food. bananas Apr 2015 #10

Al Gore is having Vegan at the festival yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #11

PETA is right on this. nt bananas Apr 2015 #17

Sure, just like they were right when they were kissing the shitbag Arpaio's ass Major Nikon Apr 2015 #26

No they are not. still_one Apr 2015 #33

Are too! bananas Apr 2015 #35

My Dad is tougher than your Dad still_one Apr 2015 #43

Is too! Dorian Gray Apr 2015 #56

You win. LOL still_one Apr 2015 #63

Oh no way. You don't eliminate a whole segment of society. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #42

Newsflash chernabog Apr 2015 #71

But why should they? Hamburger won't hurt vegans either. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #78

It will cause heart disease chernabog Apr 2015 #81

Vegan advocacy--you're doing it wrong. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #91

I may understand that in this country we allow Americans to yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #99

So in your eyes chernabog Apr 2015 #103

When you are ready to debate I'll be waiting yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #106

It's very easy to choose not to consume animal products chernabog Apr 2015 #108

Have a good day lunch arrived. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #110

"Hamburger won't hurt vegans either." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #141

Now that is fucking hilarious. yewberry Apr 2015 #195

Newsflash GGJohn Apr 2015 #216

Oh my goodness, WHY are you posting when you don't even know what "vegan" is? CreekDog Apr 2015 #148

If you want to discriminate I can't stop you. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #185

I'm not arguing that the menu needs to be vegan CreekDog Apr 2015 #203

I also don't care if they serve vegan but don't exclude a majority yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #206

PETA is right, but they're making the point in an alienating way. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #201

Not every omnivore can. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #21

It's a day festival. What is it, one meal? JaneyVee Apr 2015 #29

So if you come over to my house dbackjon Apr 2015 #95

No. You would obviously be an ignorant. insensitive asshat. alphafemale Apr 2015 #144

:) dbackjon Apr 2015 #152

My daughter got the opportunity to spend a college semester with a Maasai tribe alphafemale Apr 2015 #157

"supportive of a diet that makes you feel superior to others. " deek Apr 2015 #208

the posters in this thread. alphafemale Apr 2015 #210

Nobody requires meat. nt bananas Apr 2015 #31

who are you to decide what people should or should NOT eat? still_one Apr 2015 #34

If it's harming animals chernabog Apr 2015 #77

You harm animals with any type of mass-produced food. dbackjon Apr 2015 #154

I'm vegan. I know the benefits of a vegan diet. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #37

No human being requires meat & dairy at a FESTIVAL. Not one. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #59

No human being requires a FESTIVAL. Not one. cleanhippie Apr 2015 #68

No ones diet requires meat chernabog Apr 2015 #72

When it's winter and you can't afford foods fortified with vitamin D NuclearDem Apr 2015 #80

Doesnt meat cost more? chernabog Apr 2015 #84

No, it doesn't. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #86

Are you trying to tell me chernabog Apr 2015 #88

Who the hell said I'm buying meat? NuclearDem Apr 2015 #90

Whoever tells you they need meat to get vitamin D chernabog Apr 2015 #93

I see you take after the PETA School of Vegan Advocacy. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #94

that is the most honest vegan argument I've ever heard. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #96

Nooch does hit the spot chernabog Apr 2015 #98

LOL, ...... there is your problem NM_Birder Apr 2015 #102

So you've never had it chernabog Apr 2015 #104

I tried to BBQ NOOCH once NM_Birder Apr 2015 #112

Killing isn't Humane chernabog Apr 2015 #114

People who are gluten intolerant can't eat it betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #117

For the 1% that are gluten intolerant chernabog Apr 2015 #118

They will just fall thru the grill too. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #127

all gassy foods that people with stomach issues may have problems with. betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #131

At least 1% have the specific condition called Celiac disease. Many more are gluten intolerant or sensitive. pnwmom Apr 2015 #134

killing is more humane that trying to eat it alive, christ that's barbaric. NM_Birder Apr 2015 #122

Do you season the flesh before you eat it? chernabog Apr 2015 #123

you do know that industrial farming dbackjon Apr 2015 #156

Yes I do know chernabog Apr 2015 #161

We need both dbackjon Apr 2015 #164

We do not need animal products chernabog Apr 2015 #165

In your opinion dbackjon Apr 2015 #166

You can get everything you need from plants. chernabog Apr 2015 #168

Good for you dbackjon Apr 2015 #170

Why don't you want to minimize animal cruelty? chernabog Apr 2015 #172

Yeoman's first post shows he doesnt know what "vegan" even means CreekDog Apr 2015 #145

Oh my goodness, it's pretty clear you don't even know what vegan food is CreekDog Apr 2015 #143

That's fine I can take criticism no big deal yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #184

And if they went along with non-vegan LiberalElite Apr 2015 #2

PETA isn't 'allowing' jack shit... It isn't their fest... Oktober Apr 2015 #22

exactly. still_one Apr 2015 #36

PETA shoots ... and misses. Again. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #3

PETA is a group of total assholes. Archae Apr 2015 #4

Here is a PETA video Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #12

And here's a typical PETA ad. Archae Apr 2015 #14

You have a point Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #15

They steal pets and kill them. Not sure how good that is Major Nikon Apr 2015 #18

You have a point x 2 Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #23

They are not focused on adoption. They focus on cruelty prevention CrawlingChaos Apr 2015 #25

They were stealing healthy pets from people and killing them Major Nikon Apr 2015 #40

Do you understand the meaning of ad hominem? CrawlingChaos Apr 2015 #47

Actually that's exactly what it is Major Nikon Apr 2015 #49

WRONG CrawlingChaos Apr 2015 #51

You've GOT to be shitting me! Major Nikon Apr 2015 #65

You are making absolutely no sense whatsoever CrawlingChaos Apr 2015 #155

You stole my line! Major Nikon Apr 2015 #159

Why do you think this document is significant of anything? CrawlingChaos Apr 2015 #211

What? No more ad hominem? Major Nikon Apr 2015 #212

PETA are a bunch of fucking grifters...look at their annual budget snooper2 Apr 2015 #67

If it were only that, I wouldn't mind Major Nikon Apr 2015 #69

Gretchen Newkirk calls keeping pets 'slavery'. X_Digger Apr 2015 #207

Humans evolved as omnivores, they developed a belief system to become Vegans. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #6

Exactly. LuvNewcastle Apr 2015 #13

They are still omnivores Major Nikon Apr 2015 #20

This. hifiguy Apr 2015 #24

I think it was the green Lamborghini seveneyes Apr 2015 #7

Fuck Peta pintobean Apr 2015 #8

PETA ain't vegan...they eat their own. Scurrilous Apr 2015 #16

Fuck PETA ismnotwasm Apr 2015 #19

PETA once again proves they're clueless. jeff47 Apr 2015 #27

I am a vegetarian, however, humans are omnivoires, and a vegetarian or vegan diet are not for still_one Apr 2015 #30

There's another round of live earth concerts? NobodyHere Apr 2015 #38

Yes, in June, about the same time GoreSat reaches SEL1 bananas Apr 2015 #41

That kind of intolerance Dirty Socialist Apr 2015 #39

A long, long time ago I joined PETA,but sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #48

I have no respect for PETA Hekate Apr 2015 #50

Yet another "activist" group gone nuts, and why they get affiliated with "the left" is beyond me. nt Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #52

Gore should just spend the rest of his days under an umbrella on a gorgeous beach somewhere. merrily Apr 2015 #53

PETA is the kardashians of activism. pansypoo53219 Apr 2015 #54

I consider such demands to be no different than the ones made by righwiingers beachbum bob Apr 2015 #55

You don't understand chernabog Apr 2015 #73

According to peta, not acording the real environmentalists. betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #113

PETA isn't the only group chernabog Apr 2015 #116

all are vegan orgs or newspaper opeds, not environmental orgs. betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #119

How about the UN? chernabog Apr 2015 #121

That is against feed lotted beef dairy specifically not all meat. betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #128

You don't understand that those of us that are meat eaters don't care what you say? eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #217

Congrats chernabog Apr 2015 #220

I'm very good at not caring what you think about us meat eaters. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #221

Not a fan of PETA, but they are right on the hypocrisy. Wonderful opportunity was missed. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #60

The Festival is offering Vegan food dbackjon Apr 2015 #97

Extremism Is Unattractive ProfessorGAC Apr 2015 #61

How is it extreme chernabog Apr 2015 #75

Nobody said that. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #83

Shouldn't they also ban electricity? GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #64

Would PETA be ok if they served the cats and dogs PETA killed joeybee12 Apr 2015 #70

Al gets to live in massive mansions, fly private planes, and shill for big business. Romulox Apr 2015 #74

PETA and Al probably hit up the same Hollywood celebs. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #87

+1 MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #133

The "Democrat" primaries, eh? Ron Obvious Apr 2015 #149

Yes, I've been outed as a Yankee MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #151

Damn Al for trying. lpbk2713 Apr 2015 #89

The Meat Industry and Climate Change AJH032 Apr 2015 #111

Pork and chicken are still meat. n/t betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #115

PETA has jumped the shark. blackspade Apr 2015 #125

Won't somebody think of the sharks?!?! Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #142

I heard they served shark meat at this festival. bigwillq Apr 2015 #146

LOL! blackspade Apr 2015 #174

Guard your plates! The Talivegans are coming! alphafemale Apr 2015 #147

Talivegans? chernabog Apr 2015 #163

You are not going to dictate what I eat. alphafemale Apr 2015 #167

Of course your diet trumps the environment chernabog Apr 2015 #169

Put meat eaters in concentration camps and kill us then alphafemale Apr 2015 #173

What the hell are you talking about? chernabog Apr 2015 #175

Yeah? GGJohn Apr 2015 #218

Animal cruelty? Do you know what animals do to each other? When it comes to eating Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #176

I'm talking About what humans do to animals chernabog Apr 2015 #177

You're moving the goalposts. You explicitly made a comment about animal cruelty. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #179

I never moved any goalposts chernabog Apr 2015 #180

"Any vegan realizes what happens in nature. You're just being ridiculous." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #181

Because humans have the concept of morality chernabog Apr 2015 #182

Humans also have the concept of God. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #183

Do you think humans should be cruel to animals? chernabog Apr 2015 #186

I think humans are capable of harvesting animals without being cruel. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #187

Harvest animals? chernabog Apr 2015 #190

You keep dodging. You want me to buy into your morality but your morality seems Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #193

You are inflicting pain and killing animals chernabog Apr 2015 #196

"Morality comes from wherever." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #198

Why kill and exploit when you don't have to? chernabog Apr 2015 #199

Then suddenly it's a matter of personal convenience. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #204

Doesn't food feed the world? chernabog Apr 2015 #213

The food systems we see today are the products of hundreds of thousands of years of humans Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #214

Disagree AJH032 Apr 2015 #178

Also, I'm pretty sure I saw Al Gore wearing leather shoes. Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #158

PETA imbeciles do a lot more harm than good tabasco Apr 2015 #171

Oh noes, the poor meat-eaters might be forced to eat french fries at a festival!! yewberry Apr 2015 #197

+1 deek Apr 2015 #209

Except the OP is about poor PETA's conniption about people being allowed to eat meat Major Nikon Apr 2015 #215

Fuck PETA. n/t X_Digger Apr 2015 #205

Good. Quantess Apr 2015 #219