We're well on our way to a republican president in 2016

[Martin Eden]

243. "when does voting for the war make someone a centrist?"

Voting to give GW Bush authority to invade Iraq makes her much worse than a "centrist."

By October 2002 it was clear the Bush administration was indeed lying. If you were here at DU in 2002, you would have known that.

If Hillary Clinton didn't know that, she was too incompetent to hold the office of US senator.

More likely she was on board with the neocon agenda, or she stuck her finger in the political winds of the time and decided it was better to be "tough" on national security.

Take your pick -- it's one of those three. All three are inexcusable, and unforgivable in my book. What else could she do in the wake of the fiasco than admit she was wrong -- stick to her guns and insist she was right? It was a political necessity, regardless of what she really thinks.

If Hillary Clinton was strong and responsible in representing the people who were brutally attacked on 9/11 she would have stood up against the invasion of Iraq with every fiber of her political being. Iraq had nothing whatsoever to do 9/11. Our military was engaged in a difficult mission against the Taliban & al Qaeda in Afghanistan, and the war in Iraq shifted focus and resources away from those who actually attacked our country.

I find it very hard to believe you don't know that, or that Hillary Clinton didn't know that. Your statement "My god, she represented the state that was brutally attacked on 9/11" shows the extent to which you're willing to put on the blinders to support this politician.

The state of New York, the United States, and the million who've died in Iraq desperately needed strong Democratic leaders to forcefully stand against this fraudulent rush to a disastrous war that has cost a lot more than the $3 trillion or more that will be spent on it before all is said and done.

Hillary Clinton is still a hawk. I do not trust her one bit in matters of war & peace or national security, and neither should you. Nor do I trust her to push for meaningful reforms on Wall Street, as opposed to colluding with Wall Street insiders. As it was clearly explained in the first link I posted, Hillary Clinton is more conservative than you think.