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9. +1 The problem is systemic at this point. Corporate money pouring into all aspects of government.
Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:04 AM
Apr 2015

We have seen the scam at work for some time. United oligarchy masquerading as divided democracy:



http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/

Tuesday, Feb 23, 2010 11:24 AM UTC
The Democratic Party’s deceitful game
They are willing to bravely support any progressive bill as long as there's no chance it can pass



Democrats perpetrate the same scam over and over on their own supporters, and this illustrates perfectly how it’s played:

.... Rockefeller was willing to be a righteous champion for the public option as long as it had no chance of passing...But now that Democrats are strongly considering the reconciliation process — which will allow passage with only 50 rather than 60 votes and thus enable them to enact a public option — Rockefeller is suddenly “inclined to oppose it” because he doesn’t “think the timing of it is very good” and it’s “too partisan.” What strange excuses for someone to make with regard to a provision that he claimed, a mere five months ago (when he knew it couldn’t pass), was such a moral and policy imperative that he “would not relent” in ensuring its enactment.

The Obama White House did the same thing. As I wrote back in August, the evidence was clear that while the President was publicly claiming that he supported the public option, the White House, in private, was doing everything possible to ensure its exclusion from the final bill (in order not to alienate the health insurance industry by providing competition for it). Yesterday, Obama — while having his aides signal that they would use reconciliation if necessary — finally unveiled his first-ever health care plan as President, and guess what it did not include? The public option, which he spent all year insisting that he favored oh-so-much but sadly could not get enacted: Gosh, I really want the public option, but we just don’t have 60 votes for it; what can I do?. As I documented in my contribution to the NYT forum yesterday, now that there’s a 50-vote mechanism to pass it, his own proposed bill suddenly excludes it.

This is what the Democratic Party does...They’re willing to feign support for anything their voters want just as long as there’s no chance that they can pass it. They won control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections by pretending they wanted to compel an end to the Iraq War and Bush surveillance and interrogation abuses because they knew they would not actually do so; and indeed, once they were given the majority, the Democratic-controlled Congress continued to fund the war without conditions, to legalize Bush’s eavesdropping program, and to do nothing to stop Bush’s habeas and interrogation abuses (“Gosh, what can we do? We just don’t have 60 votes).

The primary tactic in this game is Villain Rotation. They always have a handful of Democratic Senators announce that they will be the ones to deviate this time from the ostensible party position and impede success, but the designated Villain constantly shifts, so the Party itself can claim it supports these measures while an always-changing handful of their members invariably prevent it. One minute, it’s Jay Rockefeller as the Prime Villain leading the way in protecting Bush surveillance programs and demanding telecom immunity; the next minute, it’s Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer joining hands and “breaking with their party” to ensure Michael Mukasey’s confirmation as Attorney General; then it’s Big Bad Joe Lieberman single-handedly blocking Medicare expansion; then it’s Blanche Lincoln and Jim Webb joining with Lindsey Graham to support the de-funding of civilian trials for Terrorists; and now that they can’t blame Lieberman or Ben Nelson any longer on health care (since they don’t need 60 votes), Jay Rockefeller voluntarily returns to the Villain Role, stepping up to put an end to the pretend-movement among Senate Democrats to enact the public option via reconciliation.


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My opinion? 90 percent of the sitting Congress. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #1
The way we're headed, 90% is going to be a very small number. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #5
Your attempt at sarcasm is failing. The purchase of the party is a serious problem. woo me with science Apr 2015 #11
+1 The problem is systemic at this point. Corporate money pouring into all aspects of government. woo me with science Apr 2015 #9
congress. they harbor some doozies. elehhhhna Apr 2015 #2
Jimmy Carter treestar Apr 2015 #3
Yeah. He sucked. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #6
Forgot FDR. He couldn't pass either. treestar Apr 2015 #10
DWS? Chan790 Apr 2015 #4
If there is going to be a purity test, we won't have a candidate. Vinca Apr 2015 #7
Remember, electability is less important, even if we lose. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #8
Rahm Emmanuel Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #12
FDR and JFK lamp_shade Apr 2015 #13
That's harsh, but... Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #21
Don't forget Bay of Pigs and beginning our involvement in Viet Nam nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #23
You took me seriously. Hah! lamp_shade Apr 2015 #30
Please tell me... Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #32
Buzz Clik pintobean Apr 2015 #14
I second, Buzz Clik aspirant Apr 2015 #16
+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #18
+a Brazilian Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #19
Fail Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #15
Wrong answer Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #17
Making it poorly Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #20
Shit! I don't cap'n's purity test! Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #22
Still unfunny and unoriginal Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #24
That's it. You're going on the list. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #26
You better believe it! Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #28
Any Democrat who manages to get elected... FSogol Apr 2015 #25
Wouldn't it be easier to compile a list of those who still do? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #27
That's funny - I'm compiling a list of Democratic Leaders we should follow blindly el_bryanto Apr 2015 #29
That's a discussion for another thread. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #33
Okay, I think I'm getting a sense of this. Here's the updated list. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #31
Don't forget LBJ (Vietnam). And Truman (nuked Japan). DanTex Apr 2015 #35
+1. Double down on Warren -- she voted for Reagan! Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #37
I'm a life long Democrat. I do not have a leader I vote for people to represent me. that's it. mulsh Apr 2015 #34
I see. We'll add you to the list. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #36
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