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HiPointDem

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45. Reportedly it took 7 minutes until someone helped her (a rubbish collector). In that time 18
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:46 AM
May 2012

people passed.

Supposedly, that's an indictment of all Chinese people and Chinese culture generally.

I don't think so. Such cases don't mean anything unless they happen regularly.

I was threatened by a strange man in a public place. He said he was going to stab me. I screamed for help and ran from him. There were lots of people around. No one helped me, they just stared at me or laughed or turned away, and the guy got away.

Does that mean Americans are generally selfish and uncaring and american culture ditto? Why isn't my story in the newspaper so Chinese people could "Tsk tsk" about how Americans don't want to help people they don't know?

When stories like this appear in the media, they don't give a full picture of what happened and they are often there for *political* reasons. They also feed stereotypes.

Some incidental information:

Previously, there have been incidents in China, such as the Peng Yu incident in 2006,[9][10] where Good Samaritans who helped people injured in accidents were accused of having injured the victim themselves. Some commentators have explained that this may have caused people to fear getting in trouble for doing the right thing, thus failing to help.

The Communist Party Chief of the Guangdong province, Wang Yang, called the incident "a wake-up call for everybody."[4] The Sina Weibo website attracted more than 4.5 million posts on the incident within a few days, and launched a "stop apathy" campaign online.

In November 2011, the results of a poll by the China Youth Daily, the official Communist party newspaper for youth, showed that 80% of the young people surveyed said they had been following the case closely, and 88% of those polled thought that Wang died because of growing indifference (in China) towards other people.

A majority, 71%, also thought that the people who passed the child without helping were afraid of getting into trouble themselves. According to an article by Chen Weihua, deputy editor of the China Daily, China's most widely circulated English-language newspaper, "Various surveys in the past weeks have shown that the majority of the people polled believe our morals have suffered a major setback in the past decade."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Wang_Yue

What this tells me is that most chinese believed what happened was *wrong,* saw it as a *new* phenomenon, not something typical of chinese culture before 2000 or so.

There's also this:

While most attention was focused on the passers-by who failed to assist Wang, a British journalist interviewed other shopkeepers in the Foshan hardware market who were just metres away yet failed to respond. He found that the area where the incident occurred comprised mainly internal migrant families (the Wangs had migrated from Shandong seven years earlier). In the writer's view, there was little sense of community and little in common there....

Bystander effect
Kitty Genovese

etc.

what's so particularly *chinese* about it? nothing.


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agreed BOG PERSON May 2012 #5
Or not. Cerridwen May 2012 #16
Wow, what desperate hyperbole! whatchamacallit May 2012 #19
Clearly the local Shaman has some time-hounored recipes for raw baby flesh Neue Regel May 2012 #21
Lemme guess, that's sarcasm, right? Zalatix May 2012 #29
Boullion for atheists BiggJawn May 2012 #4
Or the instant prepared version: Cup O' Baby pinboy3niner May 2012 #8
With spoonable noodles! n/t BiggJawn May 2012 #11
instead of Toad in a Hole you can make Baby in a Hole... dionysus May 2012 #37
Dick Cheney just pricked up his ears aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #6
China is where honored guests are served a live monkey with its head open aquart May 2012 #7
Racist bullshit. Yeah, chinese people are so unlike us they eat live monkeys brains. To "honored HiPointDem May 2012 #9
It was in a movie, so it must be true Hugabear May 2012 #30
I don't believe it. Fetal tissue, maybe. "Dead babies," i don't believe it. I don't care what HiPointDem May 2012 #10
That tribe down the road are cannibals. TalkingDog May 2012 #14
you like to think modern people are wiser than those in former times, as we're so closely HiPointDem May 2012 #40
Neither do I Canuckistanian May 2012 #18
This is also the result of the utterly heartless practices encouraged by traditional Chinese snagglepuss May 2012 #12
I saw a documentary several years ago that turned my stomach aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #15
The Chinese as a society have issues they need to address. Last year snagglepuss May 2012 #20
yeah, those chinese, they step on babies in the street and throw their trash on other people's HiPointDem May 2012 #41
"Shame on us Chinese." Chinese writer reflects on the lack of response to child run over twice snagglepuss May 2012 #43
Reportedly it took 7 minutes until someone helped her (a rubbish collector). In that time 18 HiPointDem May 2012 #45
You stated the sociologist is just one person so I quoted another. You snagglepuss May 2012 #46
well, if you have *two* people, that's alright then. china is an ethical black hole. so is america. HiPointDem May 2012 #47
Again you ignore the endless tainted food scandals but quote a Canadian visitor to China. snagglepuss May 2012 #48
"endless" tainted food scandals? even if that were the case (which it's not, else all chinese HiPointDem May 2012 #49
Here's the beef story from the era of tainted food in the US: HiPointDem May 2012 #50
right, because chinese can't tell the difference between bears and human babies. HiPointDem May 2012 #24
They have a effing lack of ethics on alls fronts. Need I remind you of the number snagglepuss May 2012 #27
No, they have a history of using animal parts in traditional medicines. And as for a lack of ethics HiPointDem May 2012 #39
Yeah, them northeastern china dead babies are a lot tastier than those horrible southwestern ones. PSPS May 2012 #13
Babies from NorthEastern China are likely in this case due to geography Neue Regel May 2012 #22
due to geography, eh? you don't say. HiPointDem May 2012 #26
that struck me too. they know the babies are hacked up and dried on stoves, but we can't know HiPointDem May 2012 #25
+1. n/t Bolo Boffin May 2012 #32
Male or female? n/t Cerridwen May 2012 #17
After reading through this thread Bolo Boffin May 2012 #31
What? You mean ROK would make up false propaganda stories about China? pinboy3niner May 2012 #34
incubator babies thrown onto the floor by the merciless minions of saddam. HiPointDem May 2012 #42
Exactly. n/t Bolo Boffin May 2012 #51
Oh shit guitar man May 2012 #33
Sounds like Hun atrocities to me REP May 2012 #44
Anti choice racist bullshit. The South Koreans eat Kim Chee as a staple food and very littlle meat. Monk06 May 2012 #52
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