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Jackpine Radical

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354. Having a fairly good idea of what we might get from Hillary,

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 02:06 PM

Apr 2015

and in a state whose Primary came after most were eliminated, I voted for Obama in the Primary. I guess I decided that taking a chance on Obama made more sense than voting for the known quantity.

If Hill gets the nom, will I vote for her? Sure; but at that point it's a vote in favor of her moderately liberal social policy views and seeking to somewhat limit the damage possible in foreign affairs if ANY lunatic Republican get in. I have no confidence at all in her ability (or even desire) to regulate banks & Wall Street effectively.

Ya know what? I don't know that I can muster or sustain much enthusiasm for her as a candidate. Traditionally it has been the left wing of the party, the "activists," who put in all the legwork, envelope stuffing, phone banking, etc., but I wonder how much grassroots support Hillary will muster among them. And of course, if she loses, guess who is gonna get the blame.

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We're well on our way to a republican president in 2016 [View all] MaggieD Apr 2015 OP

Plus 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 + one more NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #1

I Will Vote For Hillary No Matter What. Or A Dem. TheMastersNemesis Apr 2015 #2

Thread win at Reply 2 merrily Apr 2015 #229

This Independent will do the same. Xyzse Apr 2015 #278

correct analysis SCantiGOP Apr 2015 #375

That is why I can't go with a feel good vote. Xyzse Apr 2015 #377

I couldn't agree more. Andy823 Apr 2015 #3

You are absoutely right... TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #4

Makes me sick MaggieD Apr 2015 #5

Alas, between misguided Democrats and... TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #6

That's funny... sendero Apr 2015 #231

No - he was never a liberal leftynyc Apr 2015 #248

Having a fairly good idea of what we might get from Hillary, Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #354

I must live in a bubble leftynyc Apr 2015 #356

I'm not basing my observations on DU alone. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #358

I could pull up a zillion... sendero Apr 2015 #394

He was never a "Liberal"? bvar22 Apr 2015 #395

I see the problem leftynyc Apr 2015 #436

OH, I see your problem. bvar22 Apr 2015 #443

He never claimed to be a liberal leftynyc Apr 2015 #444

If the party wants the votes of the Left, it should move to the left. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #7

Yeah, that's how we got Bush MaggieD Apr 2015 #9

No that is not how we got bush. The Supreme Court appointed him. onecaliberal Apr 2015 #43

The election never should have been close yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #143

the left installed bush lol frylock Apr 2015 #67

By all means - encourage Bernie to run as an independent MaggieD Apr 2015 #69

if Bernie runs, it won't be as an independent frylock Apr 2015 #73

Bernie has emphasized that he would NOT run as a spoiler Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #74

That's what Nader said too MaggieD Apr 2015 #75

Bernie's been in politics for decades Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #77

That's what Nader said MaggieD Apr 2015 #80

stupid liberals frylock Apr 2015 #88

You'll be explaining how it was smart to vote Nader.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #106

You're beating this dead horse... why? Agschmid Apr 2015 #202

right after you explain how anyone OWES the Democratic party their vote frylock Apr 2015 #281

Never said they did MaggieD Apr 2015 #286

Good point. Why did Bill Clinton do that? ieoeja Apr 2015 #326

Too get elected and it worked MaggieD Apr 2015 #332

I grew up in a swing district that hasn't elected a Democrat since Bill Clinton. ieoeja Apr 2015 #351

Maybe that's why the DLC was disbanded MaggieD Apr 2015 #352

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #201

Where's the link? truebluegreen Apr 2015 #103

To what? MaggieD Apr 2015 #107

To what you categorically stated. truebluegreen Apr 2015 #114

It's not a secret MaggieD Apr 2015 #119

Apparently Jonathan Chait's opinion of and speculation about Nader in a book review is proof. merrily Apr 2015 #246

I think the Clinton Foundation does good things MaggieD Apr 2015 #288

According to you, Chait is "always" a reliable source when he excoriates Nader, but not Clinton. merrily Apr 2015 #294

He is.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #307

Facts and quotes MaggieD Apr 2015 #357

so the left was responsible for Bush because of Nader? backwoodsbob Apr 2015 #225

Not only that, but the ballot was so messed up, people didn't know who they were voting for merrily Apr 2015 #227

And voter caging and other types of 'purges' of folks who would be voting Dem. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #336

Don't be silly. Every problem in this country, from 1900 until the present is the fault of the left merrily Apr 2015 #339

You should read the whole thread MaggieD Apr 2015 #308

wow..that guy used ten thousand words backwoodsbob Apr 2015 #391

It only says nothing to purists and Naderites MaggieD Apr 2015 #393

Wrong. We got Bush by staying in the bland, anti-progressive "center". Ken Burch Apr 2015 #198

I don't think any Dem can beat Hillary. Not this election. bearssoapbox Apr 2015 #226

Too many here are not old enough to remember 1972 NT 1939 Apr 2015 #252

No, we got Bush because Gore ran to the right. Yet it was not to the right enough. jeff47 Apr 2015 #316

Thats incredibly naieve Adrahil Apr 2015 #10

Yep MaggieD Apr 2015 #12

Agree!!! Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2015 #79

Actually, that's exactly what the centrists keep doing. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #337

Best summation of the fiasco in FLorida I've read. bvar22 Apr 2015 #396

Amen! n/t markpkessinger Apr 2015 #54

Amen II: Hear, hear. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #85

I'll vote for our candidate, whomever it is, but would a true Liberal PLEASE step up.. OLDMADAM Apr 2015 #126

+1 merrily Apr 2015 #230

+2 /nt RiverLover Apr 2015 #233

Yup. woo me with science Apr 2015 #253

Nader did NOT do it RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #8

LOL - yes that is the excuse people use MaggieD Apr 2015 #11

200,000+ registered dems voted for bush in FL frylock Apr 2015 #68

So what? MaggieD Apr 2015 #70

who can argue with logic like this? frylock Apr 2015 #72

Common sense MaggieD Apr 2015 #84

stupid liberals frylock Apr 2015 #87

No doubt the words she is looking for truebluegreen Apr 2015 #105

sock puppet arendt Apr 2015 #133

Based on what? MaggieD Apr 2015 #140

You better believe it! Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #254

Oh, please, everyone knows math and facts have a liberal bias. merrily Apr 2015 #234

The REAL Math comes into play Sheepshank Apr 2015 #361

made me laugh LeftOfWest Apr 2015 #384

Excusing Dems who cross party lines to vote (R), while bashing liberals doesn't stink to high heaven merrily Apr 2015 #232

Gore won the election, in spite of all the Bush/Cheney vote suppression and sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #172

Close enough to steal MaggieD Apr 2015 #174

BINGO! RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #250

The Supreme Court would have never been involved... Adrahil Apr 2015 #13

Exactly MaggieD Apr 2015 #14

200,000+ idiot democrats that voted for Bush in FL get a free pass though frylock Apr 2015 #283

Thank you deutsey Apr 2015 #327

Take a valium realFedUp Apr 2015 #15

Oh yeah it will - always does when... MaggieD Apr 2015 #17

I believe Obama was elected realFedUp Apr 2015 #24

LOL - cause he lied and pretended to be a lefty liberal MaggieD Apr 2015 #60

So let me get this straight: truebluegreen Apr 2015 #108

Bernie is seen as a socialist MaggieD Apr 2015 #113

The people who have a problem with that would never vote for him anyway. truebluegreen Apr 2015 #116

He's still a socialist MaggieD Apr 2015 #130

No, they are not the same. merrily Apr 2015 #235

The difference between a socialist and a democratic socialist is RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #329

Hmmm. Reminds me of merrily Apr 2015 #241

For Christ sakes! You cannot gerrymander a US Senator election! longship Apr 2015 #120

I think they forgot the sarcasm tag Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #135

Maybe, or maybe someone is still learning. merrily Apr 2015 #236

Gerrymandering in the Senate? yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #146

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Apr 2015 #240

Gerrymandering doesn't affect the Senate jmowreader Apr 2015 #228

Because Bernie's not a moron like Nader the abomination libpride_15 Apr 2015 #440

Question MFrohike Apr 2015 #16

Lame excuse.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #23

Hahahaha MFrohike Apr 2015 #30

+1 Well said. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #160

Gore is not / was not a centrist MaggieD Apr 2015 #178

Oh? MFrohike Apr 2015 #237

Gore was not a centrist in 2000, unless you infer something from a founding member of the DLC merrily Apr 2015 #244

<snort> Well said. truebluegreen Apr 2015 #260

Yet fact free <snort> MaggieD Apr 2015 #279

which facts are in dispute? frylock Apr 2015 #285

Keep reading the sub thread MaggieD Apr 2015 #292

So which of his policy positions was.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #277

Where did I say any policy of Vice President Gore was a betrayal of the left? merrily Apr 2015 #282

So you don't think he's capable of his own policies? MaggieD Apr 2015 #284

LOL! Your word twisting is just so very clever--and strangely familiar. merrily Apr 2015 #287

You are free to clarify MaggieD Apr 2015 #291

Give it a rest merrily Apr 2015 #295

Shouldn't you be prepared to back up your arguments? MaggieD Apr 2015 #299

Stop twisting Ms Maggie I said he was in the DLC. That's a fact, not an argument. merrily Apr 2015 #309

So you're saying Gore wasn't liberal enough for you? MaggieD Apr 2015 #318

If by running from it you mean posting the same link... MaggieD Apr 2015 #426

Hoo boy MFrohike Apr 2015 #433

Why not? Because he isn't between stupid and utterly stupid on climate change? TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #422

Bill Clinton is a centrist - Obama is a centrist MaggieD Apr 2015 #423

Not to mention the swell Dems that voted for Reagan. They get a pass too. myrna minx Apr 2015 #258

Democrats for Nixon, too. How many liberals do you think voted for Nixon? merrily Apr 2015 #261

I wouldn't go so far as to blame him for Iraq MaggieD Apr 2015 #296

stupid liberals frylock Apr 2015 #90

and are they strong and loud here. i am trolling a poster because i say supreme crt is priority for seabeyond Apr 2015 #18

who is they, and who are you trolling which you said 3 times in your post? appalachiablue Apr 2015 #57

Ever hear the saying, "Never ask a question unless you already know the answer?" merrily Apr 2015 #245

Can you please try not to jam your candidate up our asses? L0oniX Apr 2015 #19

you would like us to quit talking about the political candidates, on a democratic political board?nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #21

I'm fine with having more than one Dem candidate. L0oniX Apr 2015 #22

me, too. but then i did not suggest people NOT talk about democratic candidates, nt. seabeyond Apr 2015 #26

Some only want to talk about one and attack those that want a Democratic choice. L0oniX Apr 2015 #33

ah. well. i do not see her too far off obama. he mad ea couple good picks. she is adamant with seabeyond Apr 2015 #41

I would never have nominated Kagan. merrily Apr 2015 #317

No love for the coronation? merrily Apr 2015 #297

Oh yeah ...about as much as a funeral. L0oniX Apr 2015 #330

she has the credentials, the history, the experience, the education to run. do not denigrate her seabeyond Apr 2015 #343

No one said she doesn't have the right to run. That is a totally different issue from merrily Apr 2015 #344

Coronation? Coming from the UK...I'm having a hard time understanding it's reference in US Politics Sheepshank Apr 2015 #366

Hmm. I began noticing it before Obama was even re-elected. At that time, I referred to it as merrily Apr 2015 #369

ahhh...so it's a gimmicy word used out of context to badger or belittle a candidacy? Sheepshank Apr 2015 #372

I thought I sensed a gotcha question posing as wide eyed innocent question. merrily Apr 2015 #374

Sorry if it felt like a "gotcha" Sheepshank Apr 2015 #386

No, I said it seemed like a gotcha from the jump merrily Apr 2015 #387

Hi again. I really didn't look at that article before posting it to you merrily Apr 2015 #373

I'm not jamming any candidate up anyone's ass MaggieD Apr 2015 #27

You are jamming the TPP up our ass, a piece of legislation written by lobbyists Cleita Apr 2015 #31

i did not see her take a position on tpp, just call out the misinformation. no position. do you seabeyond Apr 2015 #36

She's been all over this board about TPP for days? Cleita Apr 2015 #47

i saw a couple threads where she was calling out the false information. but, i did not see her seabeyond Apr 2015 #49

Well, then I guess it's wonderful that we can't see what our government is doing Cleita Apr 2015 #51

see. this shit. seabeyond Apr 2015 #52

Exactly MaggieD Apr 2015 #65

You are a fountain of lies. It IS secret. arendt Apr 2015 #152

Nope it's not MaggieD Apr 2015 #161

She may be wrong on facts, but she seems nice. merrily Apr 2015 #262

Here - it's not a secret MaggieD Apr 2015 #427

You are all about it whether you acknowledge it consciously or not. You can count to 50 TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #425

You mean the same way someone who didn't vote for Nader would object... arendt Apr 2015 #150

Oops, you're wrong again MaggieD Apr 2015 #162

True dat. Who could possibly argue with one man's opinion of Nader in a book review? merrily Apr 2015 #263

Facts and quotes and reality MaggieD Apr 2015 #275

Sorry, but opinions are not facts, simply because you share the opinion. merrily Apr 2015 #280

The article is full of facts and quotes MaggieD Apr 2015 #300

Yes, repeatedly stating I'm against it MaggieD Apr 2015 #64

See, and I saw it as being all over this board about Warren's being a liar. merrily Apr 2015 #265

I can't help what happens in your head MaggieD Apr 2015 #301

Try a morning nap. merrily Apr 2015 #304

Try backing up your assertions with facts MaggieD Apr 2015 #306

LOL! Another hilarious MaggieD thread. merrily Apr 2015 #310

Is that your way of saying you can't back up.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #312

Oooooo, I can't back up a statement about how I interpreted something you said with.... merrily Apr 2015 #313

"Interpreted" MaggieD Apr 2015 #314

Um, no I said how I SAW your posts and I NEVER said you were in favor of the TPP. merrily Apr 2015 #315

Sure you did MaggieD Apr 2015 #320

Huh? Whatever Ms. Maggie merrily Apr 2015 #322

No one forces you to reply with your imaginary ideas MaggieD Apr 2015 #350

I'm totally against the TPP MaggieD Apr 2015 #62

You said it wasn't being done in secret in other threads. You said we could all see it anytime. Cleita Apr 2015 #382

OMG! The last thing I want up my ass... NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #199

I'd have gone with the Chryler Building, but maybe that's just me. merrily Apr 2015 #239

Must resist... uhhhh... can't hold back... Then what would be the first thing? L0oniX Apr 2015 #266

Well, that would be a Butterfinger, of course! NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #271

I was thinking a bottle of Schlitz or Falstaff beer while strapped to an inversion table. L0oniX Apr 2015 #273

In a large stadium? I'm there! NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #274

Lol... Agschmid Apr 2015 #203

The left can be terrorized into voting for a centrist betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #20

I'm concentrating here MaggieD Apr 2015 #34

Reeeeeelly? OFA voters will stay home next year? Hekate Apr 2015 #187

They stayed home in 2010 and 2014 betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #216

Smells like sockpuppetry. eom TransitJohn Apr 2015 #25

Based on what? MaggieD Apr 2015 #29

stupid liberals frylock Apr 2015 #91

sock puppet arendt Apr 2015 #134

I call "bullcrap" on your "sockpuppertry" personal attack because you don't like the message. Cha Apr 2015 #39

Thank you MaggieD Apr 2015 #82

You're Welcome, MaggieD.. some are too easily prone to Cha Apr 2015 #211

Agreed. Couple of tag-teamers here, too... Hekate Apr 2015 #194

Newsflash! They already do. eom Cleita Apr 2015 #28

You mean actually talk rationally, AND without name calling? guillaumeb Apr 2015 #32

The Democrat is not liberal enough, Vote republican liberal N proud Apr 2015 #35

Sitting home pouting or.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #37

Now that is true! liberal N proud Apr 2015 #40

Actually, all Republicans have to do is see that Hillary is in the general election, Jamastiene Apr 2015 #38

Quite a few Dems like her for Prez. I was not a Hillary supporter and I don't have a candidate yet Cha Apr 2015 #42

Same here, and.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #46

nope. i may have favs and wants, but nope. i do not need ot beat up the dems. i actually want a seabeyond Apr 2015 #50

They all suck Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #144

Did someone accuse you of being liberal? merrily Apr 2015 #311

Ya'll act like she's already the nominee whatchamacallit Apr 2015 #44

Rec yardwork Apr 2015 #45

I miss the unrec button. Scuba Apr 2015 #48

Another one to put party loyalty over core values and principles Ron Obvious Apr 2015 #53

Seems like you need to read the OP again MaggieD Apr 2015 #59

stupid liberals frylock Apr 2015 #93

sock puppet arendt Apr 2015 #136

Was banned in 2005. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #151

Huh? what is this non sequitur? arendt Apr 2015 #154

Sorry, I thought that you were talking about MaggieD. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #156

There was a recent amnesty? Autumn Apr 2015 #268

me? frylock Apr 2015 #289

No it's all confusing Autumn Apr 2015 #298

sid would never do that. merrily Apr 2015 #331

So true Autumn Apr 2015 #334

LOL merrily Apr 2015 #335

Well, isn't that interesting. progressoid Apr 2015 #376

If Hillary is the nominee, of course I will vote for her, BUT . . . markpkessinger Apr 2015 #55

I also resent the efforts made to shut down the primary process Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #81

Nobody here is trying to shut down the primary process MaggieD Apr 2015 #83

Actually, they are Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #96

+1 n/t markpkessinger Apr 2015 #101

That's true about Warren and Sanders. MaggieD Apr 2015 #104

Sanders is "not electable?" markpkessinger Apr 2015 #408

Well there is a crucial difference MaggieD Apr 2015 #412

On an issue-by-issue basis, I think a lot of people are further to the left than they often realize markpkessinger Apr 2015 #419

Good point! MaggieD Apr 2015 #420

I think you don't grasp "shutting down the Primary Process" very well Sheepshank Apr 2015 #371

The left is powerless and insignificant in American politics and has been for decades Fumesucker Apr 2015 #56

the single most ineffective and powerful voting bloc in the land.. frylock Apr 2015 #71

The left is powerless precisely because of their own actions MaggieD Apr 2015 #78

Exactly, the left doesn't and didn't have the big money necessary to secure political support Fumesucker Apr 2015 #115

Nader had a chance to get Greens funded for future presidential elections MaggieD Apr 2015 #305

We're the political equivalent of the lowly train worker Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #224

The Liberal-bashing squad never sleeps here. arendt Apr 2015 #58

Been here since 2001 MaggieD Apr 2015 #76

stupid liberals frylock Apr 2015 #94

Yes, stupid liberals MaggieD Apr 2015 #98

What a complete tangent that I am not going down arendt Apr 2015 #131

You're ignoring history MaggieD Apr 2015 #173

GOLDSTEIN!!! frylock Apr 2015 #290

Ralph is a doody head Autumn Apr 2015 #302

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #129

sock puppet arendt Apr 2015 #137

No, I'm not MaggieD Apr 2015 #142

The comment is directed to frylock, if you can follow the indent. arendt Apr 2015 #145

I think I get it now, sorta Hekate Apr 2015 #205

this is what my repeated posting is based upon.. frylock Apr 2015 #293

I've been here since 2001 also arendt Apr 2015 #128

Please explain the genius move of voting Nader MaggieD Apr 2015 #138

Ask someone who did. I didn't. I aint playin your dumb game arendt Apr 2015 #141

And I'll remember how nasty you are MaggieD Apr 2015 #158

This may be your funniest post yet and that's going some. merrily Apr 2015 #264

You better believe it! Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #347

R#18 & K, hey, us Dems keep on keeping on, win and lose nt UTUSN Apr 2015 #61

Wow is your analysis vapid and wrong. jeff47 Apr 2015 #63

Yeah, I've listened to "not Nader voters fault" baloney for 15 yrs. MaggieD Apr 2015 #66

stupid liberals frylock Apr 2015 #95

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #148

Based on what? MaggieD Apr 2015 #163

Well, if you're right then you should probably start supporting a more liberal candidate. Broward Apr 2015 #86

I want the most liberal AND electable candidate we can get MaggieD Apr 2015 #97

stupid liberals frylock Apr 2015 #89

So you think it was smart of lefty liberals to vote for Nader? MaggieD Apr 2015 #100

sock puppet arendt Apr 2015 #132

lol Change has come Apr 2015 #186

Well, the trick then is to get a candidate we damn well know Is a liberal, innit? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #92

Ah, KY is a bad example of a liberal bastion MaggieD Apr 2015 #102

It's not about "bastions." Scootaloo Apr 2015 #112

Why use Ky as an example of a Dem loss? MaggieD Apr 2015 #118

What does this mean? Fumesucker Apr 2015 #259

It means they didn't want to be associated with extremists MaggieD Apr 2015 #303

Being in favor of equality is extremist? Fumesucker Apr 2015 #400

Let me give you explicit details MaggieD Apr 2015 #402

Bush stole the 2000 election. Gore won popular and electoral votes. morningfog Apr 2015 #99

10000th variation on the same post. still bullshit Doctor_J Apr 2015 #109

+1 BeanMusical Apr 2015 #111

Who running as a democrat for president.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #123

You have it exactly backwards. Voters have to show up, period. Hekate Apr 2015 #210

that is obviously not true, since they don't. I don't understand why people assume that a citizen Doctor_J Apr 2015 #267

+10 appalachiablue Apr 2015 #249

Thanks Maggie for your post. Voting is a right we have, for women and blacks it was always like Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #110

Exactly MaggieD Apr 2015 #121

The think Democrats are too far left crowd has had full sway for 25 years and they have failed TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #435

BING! BING! BING! BING! BING! We have a winner! longship Apr 2015 #117

Thanks! N/t MaggieD Apr 2015 #122

No. This very liberal Democrat thanks you. longship Apr 2015 #127

This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #153

^^^ This Hekate Apr 2015 #212

Mahalo longship! Cha Apr 2015 #214

You are welcome, my good friend! longship Apr 2015 #217

Exactly, longship.. . "After all, the measure of friendship is not agreement, but respect." Cha Apr 2015 #219

My best to you. And my sincere respect. longship Apr 2015 #220

I meant to say "haven't" found anyone yet.. as you could probably tell Cha Apr 2015 #221

There are two main groups of voters who are not RWers that will stay home on election day: Martin Eden Apr 2015 #124

Where is the fucking evidence she is a centrist????? MaggieD Apr 2015 #125

Her vote for the Iraq war, Larry Summers as her economic advisor Martin Eden Apr 2015 #149

That's all you've got? MaggieD Apr 2015 #157

"when does voting for the war make someone a centrist?" Martin Eden Apr 2015 #243

+100. Its about turnout, not turn-off. arendt Apr 2015 #139

Youre wrong because of Nader, or something. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #167

What a silly post ... Trajan Apr 2015 #147

Where did I say that? MaggieD Apr 2015 #159

Maybe Jeb will run his own version of his dad's Willie Horton ad and win the white vote. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #155

bitter, fear mongering preachers. is this Fox News? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #164

Looks like freepervile most days MaggieD Apr 2015 #165

it's insanity. a handful of DUers... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #166

It's not a handful MaggieD Apr 2015 #168

fear driven by conflating mid-term and general election turnout WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #176

Not conflating them at all MaggieD Apr 2015 #182

and now you just lost your Nader. how will you... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #397

you couldn't be more wrong about 2014 WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #442

but don't stop there, Fox News, throw in the Nader boogeyman WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #177

I hope you are wrong. DCBob Apr 2015 #169

So much wrong with this OP, I don't know where to begin. First, WHO is this candidate you sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #170

So you think we should bash Democrats MaggieD Apr 2015 #171

Who is this nominee that you want everyone to support right now? sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #183

I'm twisting YOUR words? MaggieD Apr 2015 #190

Personally I can support any of them MaggieD Apr 2015 #399

Yup.....it's the on going nebulousness that aggravates me. Sheepshank Apr 2015 #398

Oh please Maggie, which one of those teabaggies you voting for? akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #175

Am waiting for your answer. akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #181

I'm not so sure MaggieD Apr 2015 #184

Go with your heart and do remember that Democrats akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #189

I've never voted for a republican in 38 years of voting MaggieD Apr 2015 #191

I disagree with you. DU is for Democrats, if you bash Dems on akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #195

Really, I guess you missed, "fucking used car salesman" lobbed here? Sheepshank Apr 2015 #405

...... daleanime Apr 2015 #179

ugh vadermike Apr 2015 #180

Agreed all the way! MaggieD Apr 2015 #192

Are you an interior decorator! First and foremost, Hilary is not thinking about akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #193

Let me tell you this, just the idea of a rethuglican getting into power akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #185

People need to grow up and realize that Gloria Apr 2015 #188

agreed vadermike Apr 2015 #196

Triumph the WOnder Dog gets my vote before ANY GOPuke. mikehiggins Apr 2015 #197

Without bashing? You yourself have totally failed to do that in this thread. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #200

Maybe in your head MaggieD Apr 2015 #207

Is the OP intended as a threat to make people "like" Hillary? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #204

You HRC bashers have vivid imaginations MaggieD Apr 2015 #209

Well. Then. What was the point of the OP? Please. I'd like to know. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #213

That it's fucking dumb to bash people in our own party MaggieD Apr 2015 #215

And Hillary did not bash Obama in 2008? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #218

She disagreed with him and about him with objective facts MaggieD Apr 2015 #223

As in her constitutency is hard working white people? merrily Apr 2015 #333

I'm seeing a pattern with your posts.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #338

Bull puckies. That was Hillary, Bill (2X) and other Hillary campaign surrogates, namely merrily Apr 2015 #341

Plenty of people see the sexism MaggieD Apr 2015 #345

You misunderstand. I don't care what you see me as. merrily Apr 2015 #368

What happened to your 4th "buh bye" ???? MaggieD Apr 2015 #370

I seem to remember Obama getting pretty mean at that debate Gloria May 2015 #446

Obama won because of his likability. JDPriestly May 2015 #447

Left bad. merrily Apr 2015 #238

You got that hyperbole thing down pat! MaggieD Apr 2015 #340

huh? vadermike Apr 2015 #206

Liberals aren't influenced by Republicans AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #208

This whole thread proves that Will Rogers had us pegged nearly a century ago DFW Apr 2015 #222

............... marmar Apr 2015 #242

If we don't get it together soon, nilesobek Apr 2015 #247

Agree. Then expect a true theocracy. Vinca Apr 2015 #251

If republicans get control of the white house and congress workinclasszero Apr 2015 #319

We're well on our way to a corporate president in 2016. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #255

There's the truth of it. LuvNewcastle Apr 2015 #270

Exactly why we must fight. merrily Apr 2015 #321

Correct MosheFeingold Apr 2015 #364

who cares what republicans think or want. RedstDem Apr 2015 #256

Well, the sooner Turbineguy Apr 2015 #257

unrec G_j Apr 2015 #269

Not if we can draft Warren or find a better candidate than Hillary Clinton. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #272

Can you name those? MaggieD Apr 2015 #276

"You can discuss policy differences without bashing other democrats" bunnies Apr 2015 #323

It wasn't stupid to vote for Nader in a swing state? MaggieD Apr 2015 #362

Sorry. I'm not doing this. I made the mistake of reading this entire thread. bunnies Apr 2015 #365

How it goes with me? MaggieD Apr 2015 #367

I'm voting "ADOAR" -- Any Democrat over a Republican woodsprite Apr 2015 #324

Another hilarious MaggieD thread. merrily Apr 2015 #325

Game over, man! Game over! FSogol Apr 2015 #328

Can you explain how smearing democrats is helpful to the party? MaggieD Apr 2015 #353

I never did understand why you were so intent on smearing Warren sa liar, so no, I can't explain. merrily Apr 2015 #355

I didn't say she was a liar, and I like Warren MaggieD Apr 2015 #359

Yeah, ya did. You posted that POS piece from Banter that said she lied and you said you agreed merrily Apr 2015 #360

How many times are you going to do the buh bye thing? MaggieD Apr 2015 #363

The Banter article simply pointed out what Warren said on National TV: ucrdem Apr 2015 #403

Your statement is FLAT OUT UNTRUE, ucrdem merrily Apr 2015 #406

Don't shoot the messenger. nt ucrdem Apr 2015 #407

As to the contents of your very own untrue post, you are not just a messenger. merrily Apr 2015 #410

For the record, the Maddow video is EMBEDDED in the Banter article, ucrdem Apr 2015 #411

LOL! I knew, that but it doesn't alter the fact that your post was FLAT OUT UNTRUE. merrily Apr 2015 #417

Banter: "she�s not telling you the truth." ucrdem Apr 2015 #418

HUH? See my Reply 360. You made an UNTRUE post and you obviously knew it. merrily Apr 2015 #421

Nothing to see. The issue is, did Banter make its case? It did. ucrdem Apr 2015 #424

NO! That was the issue on another thread two days ago. merrily Apr 2015 #429

Okay. Glad we agree on that much anyway. nt ucrdem Apr 2015 #432

You said Caretha Apr 2015 #441

Bullcrap. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #342

Okay, site a specific issue by Hillary (not Bill) that makes you feel that way MaggieD Apr 2015 #348

If the GOP wins the White House in 2016, we will lose the SCOTUS for a generation Gothmog Apr 2015 #346

Yep, that's my main concern MaggieD Apr 2015 #349

Can I get a courtesy flush please? progressoid Apr 2015 #378

Here in Oregon, with vote by mail... Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #379

Yellow Dog Dem HassleCat Apr 2015 #380

If only we'd prosecuted Bush and Cheney...! Octafish Apr 2015 #381

Been reading about stuff leading up to the American Revolution. Cleita Apr 2015 #385

NASA may offer a means... Octafish Apr 2015 #388

Yes....one way. eom Cleita Apr 2015 #389

you raise valid points. we need to stop bashing ourselves samsingh Apr 2015 #383

I have never NOT voted since the day I became "legal" to do so. raven mad Apr 2015 #390

What A Full Court Press Effort colsohlibgal Apr 2015 #392

Major fail! Nader never said what you claim. nichomachus Apr 2015 #401

He said it on the day he launched his campaign in March 2000: ucrdem Apr 2015 #404

He did say that (over and over) - and he is lying about it in your quote MaggieD Apr 2015 #414

If the GOP nomination has the last name "Bush" Jon Ace Apr 2015 #409

Well at least your OP was meant to unify DU and not divide it! Rex Apr 2015 #413

The purists are what divide DU MaggieD Apr 2015 #416

So you are not a purist? Funny you sure do act like one in this thread with everyone. Rex Apr 2015 #434

You are correct. HRC is not progressive enough corkhead Apr 2015 #415

Actually she is very progressive MaggieD Apr 2015 #428

There is actually far more threat of them getting centrists to stay home Bjorn Against Apr 2015 #430

Interesting MaggieD Apr 2015 #431

That's insulting. LWolf Apr 2015 #437

Bottom line is that Bernie is aware of the Nader experience... libpride_15 Apr 2015 #438

OMG - Call me Rip Van Winkle! Caretha Apr 2015 #439

This again? Blue_In_AK Apr 2015 #445