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hifiguy

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34. Nonviolence can work when there is still some notion or moral sense

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 02:27 PM

Apr 2015

on the side being protested against.

American kkkops lost that sense long ago. So did American big busine$$.

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Charles Pierce Asks: "How does one reason in the face of brutalized futility?" [View all] kpete Apr 2015 OP

No, it doesn't. Non-violent resistence requires reason on the part of nonviolent activists. stone space Apr 2015 #1

It also requires reson among the people backing the other side. jeff47 Apr 2015 #3

Nonviolence does not require giving ones opponent a veto over your actions. stone space Apr 2015 #5

It's only coercive when violence is unacceptable to the people you are trying to overcome. jeff47 Apr 2015 #10

I guess that I see nonviolence as more useful that you do. stone space Apr 2015 #12

No, you dislike violence, so you would prefer non-violence to be effective jeff47 Apr 2015 #13

OK. Perhaps we should simply give up. We're doomed. stone space Apr 2015 #15

Nope, we are not doomed. We just have to realize that a single tool can not fix all problems. jeff47 Apr 2015 #16

If you want me to use violence, then I'm out. stone space Apr 2015 #17

Then enjoy the crumbs that are given to you. jeff47 Apr 2015 #18

I will not kill for you. (nt) stone space Apr 2015 #19

You don't have to. jeff47 Apr 2015 #20

Is there an act of violence that I can take that will... stone space Apr 2015 #21

Your path does not have to be 'the' path. jeff47 Apr 2015 #24

Who should I threaten with what specific violent action, and how will it help? stone space Apr 2015 #26

what you absolutely fail to understand and acknowledge is that your lifestyle depends upon violence TheSarcastinator Apr 2015 #29

I see that you are a mind reader. stone space Apr 2015 #30

Well stated, Sarcastinator. brush Apr 2015 #39

You don't have to participate in violence . . . brush Apr 2015 #31

I will not be part of a violent struggle. stone space Apr 2015 #32

Good, opt out . . . brush Apr 2015 #40

When you grab for your gunz, I'll be far, far away. stone space Apr 2015 #44

I'm not pushing guns at all. I mentioned several roles in the struggle that . . . brush Apr 2015 #45

This is pretty self-evident ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #28

So Bull Connor didn't want violence? mythology Apr 2015 #37

That is merely one view malaise Apr 2015 #6

All of my posts are merely one view. stone space Apr 2015 #9

He also advocated for racial separation for a long period mythology Apr 2015 #38

Actually, non-violent protest only works under critical assumptions of the aggressor. DetlefK Apr 2015 #8

We can aways find excuses for not engaging in nonviolent struggle. stone space Apr 2015 #14

What about the non-violent protestors you have killed personally? DetlefK Apr 2015 #22

I haven't killed any nonviolent protestors. stone space Apr 2015 #23

Way to dodge a question. DetlefK Apr 2015 #25

Sorry, but you seem to be arguing for inaction. stone space Apr 2015 #27

Ahhh . . . pot meet kettle? brush Apr 2015 #41

I dispute that a non-violent struggle works better than a violent struggle. Very different. DetlefK Apr 2015 #42

I fear we have come to a "Y" in the road...some hard choices are going to have to be made. libdem4life Apr 2015 #2

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Phweeee! Hey MIRT! longship Apr 2015 #7

I clicked on one of those links in the now auto-removed message - it was a teenage asian porn site. progree Apr 2015 #33

No surprises there. longship Apr 2015 #35

Bye bye malaise Apr 2015 #11

Nonviolence can work when there is still some notion or moral sense hifiguy Apr 2015 #34

A good question Egnever Apr 2015 #36

Best post of the week! Vattel Apr 2015 #43