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YoungDemCA

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9. +1. All of the OP's examples are speeches from politicians

Reply to geek tragedy (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 11:11 PM

Apr 2015

Guess what, Obama and both Clintons give inspiring speeches too.

Why do the Democrats* in the OP get a pass on their actual records-which were quite complicated, and had positive AND negative outcomes, depending on the issues, circumstances, and historical, political, economic, and social conditions of the time?

This isn't history, this is historical fiction. Or better yet, romanticizing the past.

*And it couldn't have anything to do with race or gender. No, even dare suggesting that would be "divisive" or "offensive." Well, I find this OP divisive and offensive, because it's being used to criticize contemporary Democrats for not being "tough" or 'strong" enough. For not standing up for "the American people". Assuming that FDR, Truman, JFK, and LBJ were all "principled" Saints, of course. Come on.

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And to think the Democratic Party was like this before... [View all] AZ Progressive Apr 2015 OP

So fucking true ... thanks Trajan Apr 2015 #1

All my presidents! I remember completely. roguevalley Apr 2015 #13

K&R! Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #2

Yes, we need it now BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #3

Back when the Democrats supported apartheid geek tragedy Apr 2015 #4

I'm alive right to know how today's New Democrats brentspeak Apr 2015 #7

+1. All of the OP's examples are speeches from politicians YoungDemCA Apr 2015 #9

I would ask why Obama gets a pass on his actual record? zeemike Apr 2015 #19

So you endorse the wet noodle Democrats of nowadays? AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #23

"The social advances are nice but" geek tragedy Apr 2015 #26

Nonsense corporate talking points. Neoliberals are a menace to disadvantaged groups. woo me with science Apr 2015 #27

+a million nt F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #32

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #24

Thank you, AZ Progressive! Profound thanks! RiverLover Apr 2015 #5

The current president welcomes their hatred too Doctor_J Apr 2015 #6

Nah, I'd rather vote for Hillary. Its easier. Hoppy Apr 2015 #8

That Democratic Party had a lot of flaws. Drunken Irishman Apr 2015 #10

+1000 YoungDemCA Apr 2015 #11

But at least it had a backbone and fought for the working class, cared about the poor... AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #12

And to think that southern democrats, even racists, had voted for those like FDR before... cascadiance Apr 2015 #31

it is very easy to explain a rightward shift in the democratic party certainot Apr 2015 #14

Wellsaid, certainot. n/t Beartracks Apr 2015 #15

Good explanation nikto Apr 2015 #22

It's a shame there's no video of Woodrow Wilson, I think he was brilliant. C Moon Apr 2015 #16

Wilson also was a racist. However in fairness to him a lot of people were racists back then. totodeinhere Apr 2015 #17

Wow! I didn't know that. I'll look into it, but already my opinion of him has changed. C Moon Apr 2015 #20

Back in the 50s 1939 Apr 2015 #33

Well, I knew all that, but it didn't bother me. Just kidding. C Moon Apr 2015 #34

Yup 1939 Apr 2015 #35

well this speech, unlike the others hfojvt Apr 2015 #18

Bernie Sanders is STILL like that, and he isn't even a Democrat... nikto Apr 2015 #21

Yes, not everyone has sold his soul. polichick Apr 2015 #29

But as of tomorrow, it will be yet! 99Forever Apr 2015 #30

Don't forget The Banking Scum, too nikto Apr 2015 #36

Nah, none of them would have passed.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #25

We need to reclaim our freedom of speech fadedrose Apr 2015 #28