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BlueCaliDem

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13. Neither CAFTA nor NAFTA have any "teeth" to go after violators. That's why we NEED the TPP.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:00 PM
Apr 2015

Man! There's so much misinformation and untruths out there about NAFTA and CAFTA that it's no wonder that some American people are against the TPP. If they believed in this president just a smidge, they wouldn't be so terrified about him negotiating another, stronger trade agreement on behalf of the American people. This man is no dummy, and he's always worked in favor of the (ungrateful) American people. Always.

What President Obama seeks to do now is renegotiate weak/unenforceable provisions in past trade agreements via the TPP that will allow other countries to go after violators of the trade agreements. This would go a LONG way in stopping the murder of union workers in Guatemala.

For the life of me, I don't understand why this is a bad thing to Trumka.

CAFTA's labor provision is only enforceable by the respective country itself; there's nothing other countries can do, even the United States, except register diplomatic protest. Sure, the AFL-CIO - just like the U.S. Trade Representative, can and has file suits in those CAFTA countries, but again, labor provisions as written under CAFTA are only enforceable by the respective country itself. Trumka knows this, so why the push of misinformation? What would he have the president do? Declare war on Guatemala and Columbia for violations of provisions of CAFTA? Would you want war over this? Or would you rather choose renegotiating our trade agreements to strengthen worker's rights and environmental protections - which the TPP seeks to do - and then have the "teeth" to really go after these governments for violations of trade provisions?

I choose the latter. And judging by your past posts, I'm certain you do, too, Recursion.

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You mean Unions. And Unions should support the TPP if only to protect those union workers BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #1
Well, if TPP is so much better than older agreements then WHY IS IT SECRET DAMMIT?!! cascadiance Apr 2015 #2
Why are all other international negotiations secret? pampango Apr 2015 #6
Can you tell me *which* international trade agreements had been broadcast via C-Span before Obama's BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #7
And which international trade agreements haven't screwed the American public... cascadiance Apr 2015 #10
So you *are* judging President Obama's trade deal with those of past presidents. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #12
History shows that BOTH Democrat and Republican presidents have signed CRAPPY trade deals... cascadiance Apr 2015 #14
In short, your answer is "Yes". Clearly. Then there's nothing more to say to you. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #15
Thank you for your valualbe input on this thread, Blue Cali. I believe the President and not those Cha Apr 2015 #16
You're so welcome, Cha, and thank you for your support. Finding support for President Obama is hard BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #17
Now Obama is doing this.. "Obama to announce eBook initiative for low-income students" Cha Apr 2015 #18
that's a very good article cali Apr 2015 #3
Excellent summary of the reasons why people are so suspicions. hifiguy Apr 2015 #4
K/R moondust Apr 2015 #5
Capitalism loves the wealth and hates the laborer, it really is that simple. Rex Apr 2015 #8
AFL-CIO has sued other countries IIRC 70 times now under NAFTA/CAFTA Recursion Apr 2015 #9
Interesting information, Recursion. Thanks for posting it. n/t pampango Apr 2015 #11
Neither CAFTA nor NAFTA have any "teeth" to go after violators. That's why we NEED the TPP. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #13
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