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Ms. Toad

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147. Stating the rules isn't.

Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:48 PM

Apr 2015

But dozens of posts in at least 2 threads I've seen is.

Whether he is allowed to run as a Democrat will fall out in the wash, when the powers that be either decide he is a suitable candidate or not. I don't know enough about Sanders to have decided whether I'm a supporter or not, but if there are two camps - I found the repeated, abrasive, demands toward Sanders much more of a turn-off than the rest of the two threads I've been in.

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If Bernie seeks the Democratic nomination, it doesn't MATTER what his voter registration is. [View all] Ken Burch Apr 2015 OP

He always said he would run as a Democrat if he ran marym625 Apr 2015 #1

Bernie - All the good, none of the bad! smokey nj Apr 2015 #4

exactly! marym625 Apr 2015 #5

And as soon as they put "socialist" next to his name, none of the votes, either NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #78

Socialist isn't the scary word that it used to be, especially to young people. smokey nj Apr 2015 #79

We are going in that direction, not there yet by a long shot but you are right NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #80

Well, we'll see. I'm behind Bernie 100%, have been for a long time now, and I'm not willing smokey nj Apr 2015 #84

The OTHERS will use McCarthyite tactics against him elleng Apr 2015 #2

Except they will have more of a problem using it against Bernie, since Bernie doesn't play political still_one Apr 2015 #12

Yes and if his responses mattered to those the OTHERS appeal to elleng Apr 2015 #19

well then accepted a non-citizen, who happens to be a Muslim as their president still_one Apr 2015 #21

er...you did mean to use the "sarcasm" smilie there, didn't you? n/t. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #23

Those wouldn't be voting for Bernie anyway... And probably won't be 1monster Apr 2015 #65

Surely won't vote for Bernie. elleng Apr 2015 #74

We need to be saved from ourselves if we don't want a Republican to replace our president. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #3

Will he be a registered Democrat? blue neen Apr 2015 #6

If one seeks the Democratic nomination, they're running as a Democrat. cyberswede Apr 2015 #8

If he is currently registered as an Independent, blue neen Apr 2015 #11

Except VT has no party registration. nt cyberswede Apr 2015 #13

As you can see by the post below, blue neen Apr 2015 #18

For VOTERS...but federal CANDIDATES have to identify their party affiliation with the FEC. MADem Apr 2015 #160

And presumably that's what he'll do, when he runs for the Democratic nomination. cyberswede Apr 2015 #171

And he'll also most likely identify as a Democrat to the Vermont Secretary of State MADem Apr 2015 #172

and that is exactly what he is going to do, register as a Democrat. It isn't difficult at all. You still_one Apr 2015 #14

Thanks. blue neen Apr 2015 #17

Vermont does not register people as belonging to one party or another. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #38

You are correct. Registration in Vermont does not ask you which party you belong to. Thanks still_one Apr 2015 #64

When I look at the list of senators from Vermont, the history of JDPriestly Apr 2015 #82

I agree still_one Apr 2015 #88

When people run for federal office (rep/senate/POTUS) they have to identify their party affiliation MADem Apr 2015 #161

Thanks, I have no doubt he will do that then still_one Apr 2015 #165

If Bernie seeks the Democratic nomination, it is because he is registering as a Democrat. Therefore still_one Apr 2015 #7

The dude from Florida, whose name escapes me at smokey nj Apr 2015 #9

It happens still_one Apr 2015 #15

Charlie Crist? nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #151

That's the one! Thanks! smokey nj Apr 2015 #153

He's not registering as anything. Party registration is a state precept. His state doesn't have Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #26

He IS registering as something, on his Federal Election Commission candidacy form. MADem Apr 2015 #162

I stand corrected. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #167

Oh yes it does MATTER. Lil Missy Apr 2015 #10

Not only that, it will focus Hillary on exactly where she stands on the issues still_one Apr 2015 #16

Right!!!! Lil Missy Apr 2015 #20

You said it. Ikonoklast Apr 2015 #150

It matters to the party MaggieD Apr 2015 #22

It has no possible negative consequences for the party or you. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #24

He's not going to get party money or party machine support.... MaggieD Apr 2015 #25

If he's running in the Democratic primaries, he effectively IS a Democrat. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #27

Nope - that's not how it works MaggieD Apr 2015 #28

Not the same-it's different being a registered member of the other major party. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #39

Oh brother MaggieD Apr 2015 #43

If he runs in our primaries, he puts the registration issue to rest. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #49

You have zero understanding of Democratic Party rules, clearly MaggieD Apr 2015 #50

He's running in our primaries. That ends the issue you're pointlessly dwelling on Ken Burch Apr 2015 #52

No, it's not MaggieD Apr 2015 #53

Ted Cruz can enter the Democratic primary. jeff47 Apr 2015 #75

No they aren't MaggieD Apr 2015 #85

Yes, they really are. jeff47 Apr 2015 #87

That's right - he has to declare as a Democrat MaggieD Apr 2015 #90

I believe the issue of his party affiliation varies from state to state Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #29

Most likely he would. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #30

Vermont voters do not register with a party. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #35

Thank you Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #37

It's not just Vermont. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #91

Voters don't, but candidates who want help from the national committees do. nt MADem Apr 2015 #106

Plus, VT does not fucking have party registration!!!! longship Apr 2015 #31

That is far beyond a simple fact. I doubt many people know each states election laws lol. Rex Apr 2015 #45

I am a resident of Michigan, not Vermont. longship Apr 2015 #58

Never thought about it before, but you are so right...they do spew theocratic bullshit. Rex Apr 2015 #66

It has nothing to do with state registration MaggieD Apr 2015 #47

Oh dear. nt longship Apr 2015 #56

He's done all he needs to do. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #59

NOT QUITE.....He hasn't filed his FEC paperwork yet. MADem Apr 2015 #107

You're still acting as if Bernie's presence in our primaries is suspect. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #133

Excuse me? You don't read people very well. You're dead wrong. MADem Apr 2015 #137

Nader is not "my friend" and I don't have to prove my party loyalty to you. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #142

Ralph's not my friend either. Look--you were unaware of FEC requirements. Because you were MADem Apr 2015 #148

Since there apparently no party registrations in Vermont, then 1monster Apr 2015 #67

DNC rules require him to declare as a Democrat MaggieD Apr 2015 #68

Which is accomplished by saying "I want to run in the Democratic primary" jeff47 Apr 2015 #76

It's accomplished by filing a form 2 with the FEC and putting "Democratic Party" MADem Apr 2015 #149

Keep banging that drum... 1monster Apr 2015 #77

"Wants to be known as a Democrat" MaggieD Apr 2015 #86

Your interpretation is the correct one. nt MADem Apr 2015 #109

No, exact opposite--unless "Democratic candidate" means something different to you. MADem Apr 2015 #108

You need to study up on what a CANDIDATE needs to do in VT... not a voter. MADem Apr 2015 #159

Could you explain to me what makes Senator Leahy a Democrat? Is it that KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #123

His FEC paperwork says "Democratic Party" on it. MADem Apr 2015 #138

I may have phrased my original question poorly in a rush for time, and I appreciate KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #168

I'm not from VT, so I can't speak to state or local elections. MADem Apr 2015 #169

As I suspected, I rushed in where angels fear to tread and am eternally in your debt for that KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #170

Happy to help. Here's a bit more information on the process in VT.... MADem Apr 2015 #173

First, several states do not have party choice on voter registration. longship Apr 2015 #146

He's not RUNNING for "fucking" office in Vermont!!!!!!!!! MADem Apr 2015 #140

Bernie is more of a Democrat than most Democrats. No one on this side should rail against him Suji to Seoul Apr 2015 #32

Those who mock the idea of Bernie seeking the nomination Ken Burch Apr 2015 #40

Who's "mocking?" The "aggrieved victim" stance doesn't play well. MADem Apr 2015 #110

Vermont voters do not register with a party. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #33

But candidates running for federal office register with the FEC and state a party affiliation. MADem Apr 2015 #139

Everyone on this board should hope he does. byronius Apr 2015 #34

Obama was a Reagan Republican. blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #36

You wean Warren, don't you?...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #70

All the way with Bernie, WE have to make it happen G_j Apr 2015 #41

Maybe not in VT, but how about Iowa, NY and Texas? ucrdem Apr 2015 #42

The party machine won't support him anywhere except Vermont MaggieD Apr 2015 #44

Agree .. Vermont's primary is in March, and Iowa's caucus is in January. ucrdem Apr 2015 #46

Good point MaggieD Apr 2015 #48

Yep. He'll need the say-so of the state chairs at least. ucrdem Apr 2015 #51

Not to mention the DNC bylaws MaggieD Apr 2015 #54

Aricle 8, Section 1: ucrdem Apr 2015 #55

Those are the rules MaggieD Apr 2015 #69

An announcement of candidacy in the Democratic primaries equates to such a declaration. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #57

Where do you get that from? MaggieD Apr 2015 #73

You are wrong. He only has to declare he is running a Democrat. morningfog Apr 2015 #99

That's exactly what I said MaggieD Apr 2015 #101

You are wrong in that you said a declaration by him announcing his candidacy morningfog Apr 2015 #103

Link? MaggieD Apr 2015 #111

Here: morningfog Apr 2015 #115

That's because the statement I was replying to is false MaggieD Apr 2015 #121

LOL. Round and round you go. This will all be moot tomorrow. morningfog Apr 2015 #124

Yes, hopefully MaggieD Apr 2015 #128

So you admit you had no reason to jack the thread and that there was no issue here. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #156

You mean correct your OP? MaggieD Apr 2015 #157

Those flogging this long dead horse AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #163

And that is what seeking the Democratic presidential nomination means. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #136

And if he runs as a Dem, his Independent voters in closed primary states can't vote for him. displacedtexan Apr 2015 #166

I guess we'll have to wait for time to prove you wrong, then, Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #93

I think he will play be the rules and declare as a democrat MaggieD Apr 2015 #94

Then why are you raising such a ruckus here? n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #96

I don't think stating the DNC rules is raising a ruckus MaggieD Apr 2015 #100

Stating the rules isn't. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #147

Uh no MaggieD Apr 2015 #154

They dislike/fear Sen. Sanders. morningfog Apr 2015 #104

Link? MaggieD Apr 2015 #112

No I can't. How do you feel about Sen. Sanders and his run for president? morningfog Apr 2015 #116

As long as he declares as a Democrat I will embrace him MaggieD Apr 2015 #119

We will know as soon as he files his candidacy declaration with the FEC. In less than 2 weeks, max. MADem Apr 2015 #141

Bernie won`t need a focus group to democrank Apr 2015 #60

Very true, and he won't suddenly evolve on issues to catch up with the polls. polichick Apr 2015 #62

The only thing my voter registration card says is that I voted in the Democratic primary. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #61

Note that Sanders is a member of the Senate Democratic Caucus... PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #63

Sure, until some reporter asks him "Are you a Democrat?"... SidDithers Apr 2015 #71

Bingo MaggieD Apr 2015 #72

" I have been a member of the Democratic Caucus for 25 years" cali Apr 2015 #83

IMO, that answer is a dodge...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #89

He doesn't have to dodge. His party affiliation will be found, in his own hand, on his FEC form 2, MADem Apr 2015 #145

I think he will answer yes. morningfog Apr 2015 #102

I hope that's how he answers...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #105

To answer your question ... Exilednight Apr 2015 #158

Anyone can run on any platform with any party treestar Apr 2015 #81

That's not what the DNC rules say MaggieD Apr 2015 #97

This has incited the party "purists". Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #92

The DNC rules make sense MaggieD Apr 2015 #95

Bernie isn't anything like Ted Cruz. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #114

Seriously? MaggieD Apr 2015 #117

I think that anyone who wants to run on the Democratic ticket should be allowed to run. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #120

Well get on the DNC and see if you can convince MaggieD Apr 2015 #122

I gave up on the DNC long ago. But, the DNC has no rule about party affiliation. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #129

You should read the whole article MaggieD Apr 2015 #130

Well, I'd say running as a Democrat fulfills that rule for Bernie. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #131

We already know Bernie isn't breaking any rules. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #143

People think grouping people into parties and having rules put on those parties and on liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #98

Yeah, it's a wild and crazy idea that Democrats want Democrats in their primaries MaggieD Apr 2015 #113

What's in a name? morningfog Apr 2015 #118

I'm not questioning his progressive credentials MaggieD Apr 2015 #125

And he will, this was never in question. morningfog Apr 2015 #126

Actually there was a post here from a CNN story MaggieD Apr 2015 #127

Bullshit. There is no such quote. morningfog Apr 2015 #132

LOL - you quoted the quote you say doesn't exist MaggieD Apr 2015 #155

Just admit he's put that to rest. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #135

Nobody's asking them to break their rules. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #134

And Bernie will run as a Dem. Issue put to rest. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #144

OH yes it is.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #152

You need to rinse those dead horse splatters off your whip AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #164