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FSogol

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68. BS. O'Malley moved away from that style of policing while still in that office.
Thu Apr 30, 2015, 01:39 PM
Apr 2015

You can't name a major city in the US that didn't employ zero tolerance policing in the 1990s-early 2000s.

Every major city switched to that form of policing in the mid to late 90s because of the drop in NYC's crime rate. By the mid 00s, everyone was moving away from it due to over-policing, arresting innocent people, profiling, etc. He employed those policies when he arrived as Mayor, but moved away from them for the reasons stated. The number of arrests dropped each year in Baltimore as did the crime rate.

By the end of his Mayoral term he moved away from that policy. He did not employ those methods as Governor. Unlike say, Giuliani, O'Malley changed, evolved, and modified his approach until he got a fairer/more workable system.

From a 2010 article in the Baltimore Sun:

A lawsuit filed in 2006 on behalf of 14 people alleged that their arrests indicated a broad pattern of abuse in which thousands of people were routinely arrested without probable cause. The suit also alleged that the so-called "zero tolerance" system was endorsed and enforced by city officials under the tenure of then-mayor Martin O'Malley.

In a joint statement with the plaintiffs, the police department said it has agreed to institute policies that reject the "zero tolerance policing" and establish a range of appropriate officer responses to minor offenses. The department will issue written directives that spell out the elements of common minor offenses to ensure that officers are aware of the scope of their authority, and will train every officer on the new policies for offenses, the statement said.

Arrests in the city have fallen by the tens of thousands since O'Malley became governor, and the ACLU and NAACP said in the statement that they recognize that the current city leadership has taken steps to address the issue and "applaud those efforts."



The efforts to link a current police brutality case in Baltimore to a man who hasn't been the mayor there for 7-1/2 years is pretty ridiculous.

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So... Martin O'Malley? [View all] Agschmid Apr 2015 OP
You think he folds over 1 RW smear? FSogol Apr 2015 #1
No I doubt he folds, but it seems his supporters may have. Agschmid Apr 2015 #2
I think your crystal ball and weather map need updating. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #4
Not many OP's of late here on DU. Agschmid Apr 2015 #5
He hasn't announced yet JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #26
If you're actually interested... bigtree Apr 2015 #28
I am. Agschmid Apr 2015 #29
cool bigtree Apr 2015 #32
+1 n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #42
This is what I like to see KamaAina Apr 2015 #45
Agree. Agschmid Apr 2015 #52
not exactly a rw smear, and the question will be for anyone considering him geek tragedy Apr 2015 #6
Not the Baltimore story but he lost the anti-Hillary mantle./NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #8
He did. Agschmid Apr 2015 #10
Maybe on the DU bubble, but in the real world? We'll have to wait and see FSogol Apr 2015 #11
Bernie sucked up all of the anti -Hillary oxygen in the room... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #13
I don't remember Hubert's attempt going that well? Agschmid Apr 2015 #14
I believe Biden would fare better than Humphrey. NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #16
Humphrey was the establishment candidate. In our election, that is currently HRC. FSogol Apr 2015 #19
Exactly...But if she falls , the party will rally around Biden. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #21
Doubtful. The campaigns are barely beginning. Save us the goofy prognostication and let's watch FSogol Apr 2015 #23
Nothing goofy about my prognostications DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #25
Be sure to check your oddsmakers on the day O'Malley announces. FSogol Apr 2015 #27
LOL, DU's own Slyvia Brown? Why haven't you retired on your lottery winnings yet? n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #15
$100.00 donation to DU Martin O'Malley isn't the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #17
And I'll donate an "if" to your previous sentence. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #20
Look at it like beers... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #22
We'll add "beers" to the list of things you don't know much about. FSogol Apr 2015 #24
I am a huge sports enthusiast as are you... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #30
Liking sports does not equal liking gambling or betting. FSogol Apr 2015 #40
Hell no! KamaAina Apr 2015 #47
I'd take issue with calling it "anti-Hillary" more like the idealistic wing of the party geek tragedy Apr 2015 #41
I think "Non-Hillary" is better, or "true liberal" or "true populist." morningfog Apr 2015 #51
And for that reason, it would greatly benefit Hillary for O'Malley to enter, morningfog Apr 2015 #50
IMO O'Malley waits until Baltimore simmers down . . . brush Apr 2015 #31
That's only his baggage if you ignore the fact that someone else was in charge the last 7-1/2 years. FSogol Apr 2015 #35
Someone else may have been in charge of Baltimore KamaAina Apr 2015 #49
I used the word "legacy" from his mass incarceration policy brush Apr 2015 #55
Simon is someone who is friends with the current admin and has a grudge against O'Malley. FSogol Apr 2015 #60
Pls read the Simon interview at the link. It's a good read brush Apr 2015 #63
I did read the article. It doesn't change facts. FSogol Apr 2015 #66
I disagree. He's got TV time now that he couldn't afford to buy. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #44
I'm not the only one saying this. brush Apr 2015 #56
Protecting the community from violent crime is what the community expects. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #57
Pls read the David Simon interview in the link. It's apparent from your post that you didn't read it brush Apr 2015 #62
"social justice" as currently applied, has created many of these problems. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #67
BS. O'Malley moved away from that style of policing while still in that office. FSogol Apr 2015 #68
I think we need robust debates and for as many to come forward as possible. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #3
I hope not. We need more voices. nt onehandle Apr 2015 #7
that Lincoln chaffee guy maybe. but I am still curios about martin dembotoz Apr 2015 #9
I didn't personally see Chafee as a strong candidate either way. Agschmid Apr 2015 #12
I'm still very interested in what... one_voice Apr 2015 #18
It may be over for O'Malley Koinos Apr 2015 #33
It's odd that on our side we seem hard pressed to support the same amount... Agschmid Apr 2015 #36
With billionaire backing... Koinos Apr 2015 #65
no. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #34
Good. Agschmid Apr 2015 #37
One person is an easily dismissed lone nut. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #43
I think Bernie can siphon enough votes from Hillary... cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #38
So you see it as a three way race now? Agschmid Apr 2015 #39
Heck, this far out it's hard to tell. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #58
Hope not. If he's serious he needs to fight back. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #46
I don't understand. Xyzse Apr 2015 #48
I think (though it's just a theory) he lost some/a lot of support with... Agschmid Apr 2015 #54
Ooooh... Ok. Xyzse Apr 2015 #59
Agree. Agschmid Apr 2015 #61
Only on DU. Look at the 1st 5 primaries: FSogol Apr 2015 #64
Just Received an Email from O'Malley's PAC Koinos Apr 2015 #53
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