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cali

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Thu Apr 30, 2015, 02:38 PM Apr 2015

Tom Friedman: No TPP and ISIS will prevail, the world will slip into anarchy and China [View all]

will menace us all.

Wow, talk about a hard sell with bullshit.


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Given the premise of that book (and he's apparently working on a followup), it's little surprise that he's now stepped up to defend the TPP in his NY Times column space. Of course, he's going to do that, because he has a kneejerk reaction to defend "free trade deals" based on his book -- and he doesn't even seem to recognize that the TPP isn't really about free trade, other than at the margins. At least his colleague, Paul Krugman, seemed to immediately recognize that the TPP couldn't possibly help much on trade (because most trade barriers are already gone), and after talking to lots of folks realized that the TPP was likely dangerous.

Friedman, on the other hand, insists it's necessary, because without it... ISIS wins. Or something like that. Honestly, it's hard to parse out what he's actually saying because the broad meaningless platitudes just take over:

Because these deals are not just about who sets the rules. They’re about whether we’ll have a rule-based world at all. We’re at a very plastic moment in global affairs — much like after World War II. China is trying to unilaterally rewrite the rules. Russia is trying to unilaterally break the rules and parts of both the Arab world and Africa have lost all their rules and are disintegrating into states of nature. The globe is increasingly dividing between the World of Order and the World of Disorder.

When you look at it from Europe — I’ve been in Germany and Britain the past week — you see a situation developing to the south of here that is terrifying. It is not only a refugee crisis. It’s a civilizational meltdown: Libya, Yemen, Syria and Iraq — the core of the Arab world — have all collapsed into tribal and sectarian civil wars, amplified by water crises and other environmental stresses.

From there, he wanders through random musings about the collapse of civilization in the Middle East that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with a trade agreement concerning countries in the Pacific Rim. Then he magically brings it back around to the TPP by arguing "something something New World Order World of Order."

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https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150429/05485830831/tom-friedman-if-we-dont-sign-tpp-agreement-world-will-be-overtaken-isis-anarchy-china.shtml

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So Tom Friedman now has officially become a corporatist fear monger! cascadiance Apr 2015 #1
ugh, me either. cali Apr 2015 #4
Yep, that's the book I have hidden in a box somewhere... cascadiance Apr 2015 #8
Too many olives. Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #18
He was a big supporter of the Iraq war BainsBane Apr 2015 #2
Friedman is the "Old Faithful" of bullshit. hifiguy Apr 2015 #17
Oh, the vision! Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #19
Old Faithful or... Oilwellian Apr 2015 #34
Freidman for it and Dana Milbank against TPP.... KoKo Apr 2015 #3
Nice to know he's still out there and still propagating utter drivel tularetom Apr 2015 #5
lol. utter drivel hits the nail smack on the head. cali Apr 2015 #13
If all else fails, erect a scary bogeyman. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #6
Why is Friedman still a thing? GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #7
Exactly...... sendero Apr 2015 #27
So how many FU's* will it take before this happens? Fumesucker Apr 2015 #9
I notice something missing when he mentions disintegration in the ME JHB Apr 2015 #10
I think you've mischaracterized Krugman's comments in his latest wishy washy editorial. Hoyt Apr 2015 #11
I'm flattered that you think I wrote that piece, dear cali Apr 2015 #15
You posted it, did you not? Hoyt Apr 2015 #22
If we don't sign the TPP, the terrorists win. hughee99 Apr 2015 #12
Anyone having any lingering doubts about this monstrosity... Hopefully the King Of Fools, Friedman's AzDar Apr 2015 #14
Tbaggers are against it. That tells me something too. Hoyt Apr 2015 #24
And the US Chamber of Commerce, Paul Ryan, Orin Hatch, John Boehner are all for it neverforget May 2015 #41
Not as much as racist, xenophobic, greedy, nationalistic, tbaggers. Hoyt May 2015 #42
are those of us Democrats opposed to the TPP what you neverforget May 2015 #43
I really hope you answer post #43 but i neverforget May 2015 #44
Tbaggers are against it, that should tell you something. And TB Hoyt May 2015 #45
Ok. So because I don't want the TPP means I am fine letting poor people starve? neverforget May 2015 #47
Actually, there is plenty of evidence Multinational Corporations pay more and are good for poor Hoyt May 2015 #48
Friedman really needs to lay off huffing gas. hifiguy Apr 2015 #16
In Friedman's defense, Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #20
I think you may be on to something here. hifiguy Apr 2015 #21
Thread Winner, First Rate! appalachiablue Apr 2015 #38
Yemen has spent most of the last 30 years in one civil war, or another JCMach1 Apr 2015 #23
This is the guy that once said . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2015 #25
Friedman is the new Judith Miller. Which makes sense, given both bullwinkle428 Apr 2015 #26
and it will happen within the next 6 months frylock Apr 2015 #28
The moustache of understanding strikes again... madinmaryland Apr 2015 #29
that is just delightful- and hysterical. thanks cali Apr 2015 #30
Glad to see someone else remembers Get Your War On. nt DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #31
LOL! nt m-lekktor Apr 2015 #32
That is classic. hifiguy Apr 2015 #33
Wow, glad I'm not on Tom Friedman's side in the TPP debate. /nt Marr Apr 2015 #35
China hates TPP because they don't want someone setting standards that hurt their advantages. pampango Apr 2015 #36
I recently read an interesting long article about how China doesn't hate the TPP cali Apr 2015 #37
I was going by what I read a year ago so maybe things have changed. n/t pampango Apr 2015 #39
scare tactics have to, y'know, scare people MisterP Apr 2015 #40
"...and Nazis will ride on dinosaurs..." Ken Burch May 2015 #46
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