I am, not surprised; but, somewhat dismayed with ...

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236. Perhaps a concrete example might help

for those who do not see the difference between social justice and economic justice.

Let's take the example of Henry Louis Gates (hardly a victim of economic injustice as a distinguished Harvard professor with a sideline producing popular PBS documentaries and shows). He was arrested by the police as a potential burglar, even though he showed proof that it was his own home he was trying to get into.

Or any black man trying to hail a taxi cab in New York. (I was made aware of this decades ago by a distinguished black cinematographer, who had us both laughing and gasping at his cab stories at lunch once.)

Or a well-to-do black woman being suspected of potential shoplifting when she asks to see an expensive handbag.

Or just plain "driving while black." You can be rich and/or famous, but you will not escape this indignity (and potential life-threatening institutional procedure). This is not generally the case if you are a white person in America.

There is a difference. And while there are connections between economic and social justice from a theoretical perspective on the societal level, in everyday terms it seems that no amount of economic prestige releases a black person from societal injustices, large and small. We certainly have had leaders such as Eric Holder and Cory Booker attest to their own stories on this front. Money and power still won't buy you social justice in many cases.

In thinking about it, there probably can be no economic justice on a widespread basis until social justice is achieved. Anyone who tries to make this about "corporatists" or "Wall Street" is just tooting their own political horn. There was social and economic injustice in this country for African Americans well before the mergers and swap trades and Goldman Sachs of our current era. For several hundred years. In other words, there has always been a gap in this country based on race. And there was never some "golden era" (even under everybody's favorite FDR) in this respect.