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Vattel

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29. Thanks for the link. I read the whole thing.

Reply to bigtree (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 05:42 PM

Apr 2015

That article does not show that Simon's contentions about bad stats are incorrect. There is a lot of disagreement among those quoted. Like most newspaper articles, it is mostly he-said-she-said. Simon, of course, suggests that he has been told horror stories about ways that the stats were manipulated from actual police officers. IMHO it's hard to know what the truth is here.

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David Simon: O�Malley �Destroyed� Policing [View all] DonViejo Apr 2015 OP

The War on Drugs is a war on the black and the poor. bravenak Apr 2015 #1

+1 uponit7771 Apr 2015 #3

If O'Malley brought the "broken windows" policy to Baltimore, Dawson Leery Apr 2015 #2

O'Malley left that office in 2007 bigtree Apr 2015 #4

Thanks for posting this.... DonViejo Apr 2015 #5

the drop in crime in that time period could also have been the Roe v. Wade decision. CTyankee Apr 2015 #6

+1 n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #7

Some people are still trying to pretend that this stuff didn't happen, Vattel Apr 2015 #8

when you critizize for this you omit the dangerousness on the street which compelled the policy bigtree Apr 2015 #9

You are making progress: "That's not to excuse the abuses of civil liberties." Vattel Apr 2015 #10

Right JonLP24 Apr 2015 #11

Yes, Simon is an insider with lots of information. Vattel Apr 2015 #12

Yes, exactly what I was thinking JonLP24 Apr 2015 #13

yeah, Norris joined a fictional TV show as a cast member bigtree Apr 2015 #14

When they made the Homicide Life on The Street JonLP24 Apr 2015 #15

the implication that Norris was hounded out of office by O'Malley goes against his public embrace bigtree Apr 2015 #17

The same prosecutor was later reprimanded JonLP24 Apr 2015 #18

my point was addressing the assertion (his?) that he was forced out because of political ambition bigtree Apr 2015 #19

You've made no progress at all in acknowledging there was consequential crime problem in the city bigtree Apr 2015 #16

+1 Well said. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #20

I never said O'Malley had the worst motivations for wanting to reduce crime. Please don't put words Vattel Apr 2015 #21

the article posted knocks his motivations bigtree Apr 2015 #22

Your dishonesty is remarkable. Vattel Apr 2015 #24

alright, so you don't agree with that point Simon is making bigtree Apr 2015 #25

Let me put it this way. Vattel Apr 2015 #27

read the article I provided. I can't post the entire report bigtree Apr 2015 #28

Thanks for the link. I read the whole thing. Vattel Apr 2015 #29

I have great respect for David Simon BainsBane Apr 2015 #23

Same here. lovemydog Apr 2015 #26