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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:56 AM May 2015

Obama should do nothing... [View all]

Case in point:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026599956

Had Obama not announced this at all, no one would have ever thought to bitch about it. There wouldn't have been a thread deriding him on not providing more reading opportunities to lower-income children and the issue would have never warranted even the most mildest of disdain.

Had he done absolutely nothing, no one on DU would have cared.

He does something and we care. It's not good enough. He should do this, or that, or this and that.

But what he's doing is not good...even though, ultimately, it's infinitely better than nothing.

It's the same with healthcare. Had Obama never pursued healthcare reform, maybe we would have had some 'what if' gripes, but on the whole, the issue wouldn't have been entirely too divisive. We don't consider Carter a failed president because he couldn't get healthcare reformed - same with JFK or FDR. Sure, there was Medicare, but even that was a monster compromise that, if it happened today (only a limited amount of people qualified, specifically elderly), we'd probably shoot that down, too. But the reality is that if Obama had not gone hard for healthcare reform, and today we're living under the same system where the uninsured is growing, more and more people lack sufficient healthcare due to pre-existing conditions, and states aren't expanding their Medicaid programs to help service the poor, the cries would probably be far less than what we've experienced over the last few years toward Obamacare - namely it's not good enough.

Yet even the harshest of critics would concede it's better than nothing - it's better than what we had.

Isn't that funny how it works? Doing nothing ultimately is the easiest route because it's also the route of least resistance. Had Kennedy never said anything about going to the moon, no one would have second-guessed anything he did. The status quo, in and of itself, is easier, far easier, than even marginal change because that marginal change, no matter how much could have been accomplished, is still never good enough once the ball gets rolling.

Obama should have pushed for universal healthcare - he should have been a bigger advocate for the public option. But because he wasn't, he failed - he failed you, he failed liberalism, he failed any hope of true, meaningful reform.

But he didn't. He got reform. It works. It's not perfect - but it works. Just as Medicare worked, even though it wasn't a universal system for every single citizen. Social Security, too, works, even though it's not a guaranteed wage for everyone.

And we know it works compared to what the alternative of doing nothing would have been.

It's just an interesting paradox. You do something, and the backlash to doing something is probably greater if you hadn't done anything to begin with. In the end, though, what is done helps - even if, in some instances, only marginally.

But on the whole ... it helps significantly, especially compared to nothing.

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Obama should do nothing... [View all] Drunken Irishman May 2015 OP
Well, Obama should do nothing if he does it only to get praise. merrily May 2015 #1
It's not about getting praise - it's about complaining for the sake of complaining. Drunken Irishman May 2015 #2
I knew what you meant. I was going off your "Obama should do nothing." merrily May 2015 #3
Ah. I agree. I was just using hyperbolic language haha Drunken Irishman May 2015 #4
"That constant complaining, finding a wrong in every good thing, is maddening. " joshcryer May 2015 #6
You can't do a thing about the complaining, only about how you react to it. merrily May 2015 #7
It gets to you eventually. joshcryer May 2015 #10
Only if you let it. The complaining is on the complainers. The reaction to the complaining is on you merrily May 2015 #13
Re-read post #10. joshcryer May 2015 #15
Don't need to. I understood it the first time. I don't think you understood my post. merrily May 2015 #21
Something is always better than nothing. joshcryer May 2015 #5
Does it really help? TM99 May 2015 #8
Yes. Drunken Irishman May 2015 #9
My mom is literally in the bottom 1% with Social Security. joshcryer May 2015 #14
I just don't agree. TM99 May 2015 #19
That is a strategy for complete failure. Adrahil May 2015 #23
Actually, quite the opposite. TM99 May 2015 #25
Well you keep trying that... Adrahil May 2015 #31
That's your prerogative. TM99 May 2015 #39
As it is your prerogative to be an ideologue. Politics involves an opposition. KittyWampus May 2015 #46
I am fascinated always by the projection. TM99 May 2015 #51
I think the Supreme Court blocked countrywide Medicaid expansion, but let's blame Obama. Hoyt May 2015 #35
An astute politician TM99 May 2015 #40
Never good enough for some folks. Hoyt May 2015 #64
You are emotionally defending TM99 May 2015 #66
No. I'm saying Obama will never be good enough for some people. Hoyt May 2015 #67
That is still about emotional defense. TM99 May 2015 #68
Did you watch or read Obama's 2012 nomination speech? joshcryer May 2015 #12
I did. TM99 May 2015 #16
I've always said he should've dropped a "legislative bomb." joshcryer May 2015 #18
I would have had a great deal more respect TM99 May 2015 #20
"Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, and Bush 2 got a lot of what they wanted" BumRushDaShow May 2015 #22
I am bi-racial so you can let up TM99 May 2015 #24
What you "are" is a non sequitur BumRushDaShow May 2015 #28
If my racial identity is now irrelevant TM99 May 2015 #37
Nope BumRushDaShow May 2015 #44
Yup! TM99 May 2015 #48
"a smart man, a kind man, even a good man" BumRushDaShow May 2015 #54
Your case is faulty from the start. TM99 May 2015 #57
I have no problem with people disagreeing with this policies BumRushDaShow May 2015 #61
You put quote marks around gay rights, Obama advanced 'gay rights' you said, dismissing the worth Bluenorthwest May 2015 #62
You so misunderstand my posts, TM99 May 2015 #69
Exactly BRDS. Cha May 2015 #49
Excellent post. "He has consistently governed as a Reagan Democrat." woo me with science May 2015 #29
I call bullshit on your "reagun democrat" label.. it's just a nasty cheap ignorant pot shot. It Cha May 2015 #34
Call away but you are wrong. TM99 May 2015 #38
No, you're wrong.. all you have is a clueless label. You haven't been paying attention. Cha May 2015 #45
I backed up my 'clueless label' with facts TM99 May 2015 #53
No, you didn't.. keep digging. Cha May 2015 #55
I see you have nothing then. TM99 May 2015 #58
Here, have a lookie BumRushDaShow May 2015 #63
Where are your facts? Octafish May 2015 #59
Where in this oft-cited interview quote BumRushDaShow May 2015 #52
Read the linked to article. TM99 May 2015 #56
The article has been around along time BumRushDaShow May 2015 #60
More manipulative Third Way talking points. woo me with science May 2015 #11
While you attempt to reframe every topic on which you disagree as 'Third Way'. randome May 2015 #41
How long has Congress done nothing and how do we feel about that? liberal N proud May 2015 #17
Welcome to DU3! freshwest May 2015 #26
"In a Heavy-bottom pot" BumRushDaShow May 2015 #30
Adorable pic, fresh.. me I use my awesome air popper.. Cha May 2015 #33
Obama applied for the job. The job is very difficult. A lot of money was spent, a lot of effort - djean111 May 2015 #27
Yeah, the anonymous internet wouldn't have been jumping on to complain about what the Cha May 2015 #32
And once something gets don fadedrose May 2015 #36
But if he does nothing and DU doesn't complain Capt. Obvious May 2015 #42
I'm sure DIrish would love not to have to read the constant whining about nothing. Cha May 2015 #47
I don't think he should, or does, make any decision based on what morningfog May 2015 #43
K&R a whole bunch!!!!! Homer Wells May 2015 #50
I hope my thoughts didn't come across as complaining. KMOD May 2015 #65
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