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150. But you can decide which party's nomination to seek

Fri May 1, 2015, 02:41 PM

May 2015

and I don't think Bernie has ever sought to be nominated as or identifed on the ballot as a Democrat before. He's run against (not as) the Democratic Party nominee in the majority of elections he has been in, either as a member of the Liberty Union party or as an independent. In more recent elections, the Democrats haven't been putting up candidates against Bernie, but I still don't think he is identified as the nominee of the Democratic party.

The point of my post is not to criticize Bernie. Just to make it clear that the fact that there is no party registration in Vermont hasn't kept Bernie from running as a Democrat for office in Vermont. He's chosen not to do so. Now he's choosing to run as a Democrat. I don't see that to be a big deal, although it probably hurts him with some number of voters who identify themselves as Democrats whether or not they are "registered" as such.

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I am not a registered Democrat. I can't be. Neither can Bernie [View all] cali Apr 2015 OP

I did not know that..... daleanime Apr 2015 #1

But do you CALL yourself a Democrat? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #2

Yes. morningfog Apr 2015 #7

Has Bernie called HIMSELF a Democrat? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #8

He calls himself a Democratic Socialist and will be rinning against Hillary as a Democrat. morningfog Apr 2015 #10

That is NOT a member of the Democratic Party...sorry charlie.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #11

You just said the opposite of what you thought you said. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #12

No I didn't... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #42

except and accept have different meanings. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #67

What are you not understanding? He will be running for president as a Democrat against morningfog Apr 2015 #17

Don't bother. Seriously. smokey nj Apr 2015 #34

Oh, I know. And it is willful. morningfog Apr 2015 #38

My point is...UNLESS he says he is a Democrat...he is still and Independent running for the VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #45

He will have to say he is running as a Democrat to appear on some ballots. morningfog Apr 2015 #79

It's enough that he seeks the Democratic nomination. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #103

Ok you are being goofy. According to you no Vermonter can run betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #41

NOOOO that is NOT What I am saying.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #47

He may be a self titled Democrat but he sure as hell isn't reigstered to vote in D. Primary. Agschmid Apr 2015 #61

Neither Bernie Sanders nor Patrick Leahy is a registered Democrat JDPriestly Apr 2015 #81

All Sanders (or anyone) has to do is file a "Consent Form" with the petiton forms MADem May 2015 #154

Why are you doing this? Ken Burch Apr 2015 #106

This is just the usual thread-jacking, and y'all are feeding it. djean111 Apr 2015 #126

"Goofy" is far too kind. morningfog Apr 2015 #56

Hahahahaha!!! smokey nj Apr 2015 #76

Wtf? Agschmid Apr 2015 #58

The closest I've seen is when he says he caucuses with the Dems. arcane1 Apr 2015 #30

You have no reason to oppose Bernie standing in the Dem primaries. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #99

You place Party over policy. For that reason I see you as part of the problem. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #50

How was the vacation? Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #123

He runs as an independent MaggieD Apr 2015 #3

Funny....according to this link... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #4

pat is not a registered Democrat either cali Apr 2015 #18

how many times do you need to be told. He is not running as an independent cali Apr 2015 #15

I will take his word for it, not yours MaggieD Apr 2015 #20

first of all, it's bad form not to use links. secondly, huge fail. here cali Apr 2015 #25

Google it - he said it MaggieD Apr 2015 #27

He will either make it past the Democratic primaries or he won't. No spoiling necessary. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #37

fail once more. your bullshit claim that Ted Cruz can run in the democratic primary cali Apr 2015 #39

"he would not run outside the Democratic party establishment" n/t arcane1 Apr 2015 #33

That seems clear to me. cyberswede Apr 2015 #51

I think some people *hope* he has no chance of winning Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #115

I can understand not wanting him to run 3rd party, but that should be settled now. arcane1 Apr 2015 #140

this is about the dumbest thing i have seen on du yet. mopinko Apr 2015 #74

Thanks for your input MaggieD Apr 2015 #78

Which I don't think you've read. eloydude May 2015 #147

What does "campaigning as a Democrat" mean? MaggieD May 2015 #148

How many times has people already told you - Vermont does NOT have party registration eloydude May 2015 #149

There is no party registration in Minnesota either so I am not a "registered Democrat" dflprincess Apr 2015 #5

That Al Franken, he's also one of those 'Democratic Farm Labor' people. How dare he? Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #139

Thank you! dflprincess Apr 2015 #142

Bernie perhaps can't vote as a Democrat in Vermont KMOD Apr 2015 #6

He can.....but he can do it as an Independent as well.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #9

Won't he be on the ballot as a Democrat? KMOD Apr 2015 #14

He will be on the Democratic ballot as a Democrat running against Democrat Hillary Clinton morningfog Apr 2015 #19

Yeah, that's what I thought. KMOD Apr 2015 #40

When Sanders or a staffer fill out the form ... earthside Apr 2015 #69

He can't be a registered Democrat. cali Apr 2015 #16

I get that. KMOD Apr 2015 #43

Some people care if he's "bona fide" Dem. Others care that Bernie didn't vote for a bogus war think Apr 2015 #13

What I find hilarious is "HE'S NOT A DEMOCRAT!1!111!" is the worst thing they can say about Bernie smokey nj Apr 2015 #21

Yes. It is the worst thing, and that's awesome. Orsino Apr 2015 #136

There is good reason to care MaggieD Apr 2015 #22

Ya. that "D" meant a whole lot to Lieberman. Didn't it...... think Apr 2015 #23

It sure didn't, and that is the point MaggieD Apr 2015 #24

Sen. Sanders' actions are consistently more liberal and more Democratic than any Senator morningfog Apr 2015 #26

Fabulous - love liberals MaggieD Apr 2015 #32

He has always caucaused with the Dems, he will be running as a Democrat. morningfog Apr 2015 #35

The last two who won as Democrats, -- governed as Reaganites. immoderate Apr 2015 #54

Sounds like you don't like Democrats much MaggieD Apr 2015 #85

Purist left? Ridiculous, the communist levels are probably dangerously low for ideological TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #107

You don't seem to like democrats much either MaggieD Apr 2015 #109

If you aren't going to respond to my post why reply to it? I've been Democrat since I was 17 and am TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #125

You got it. I'm a democrat, not a Democrat. immoderate Apr 2015 #108

Why are you a democrat if you think so poorly of Democrats? MaggieD Apr 2015 #110

I think that democracy, or as close to it as is achievable, immoderate Apr 2015 #112

he will :) G_j Apr 2015 #80

You mean like whether to vote to take America to war based on lies? think Apr 2015 #28

fail. again. He is running in the democratic primary, opposing Hillary's cali Apr 2015 #31

bwahaha. stop spreadin the shifty false claim that he might run as a spoiler cali Apr 2015 #29

Nothing shifty about it MaggieD Apr 2015 #36

Yes shifty, quite transparent as well, you realize everyone can see that don't you? /nt Dragonfli Apr 2015 #44

I couldn't care less, frankly MaggieD Apr 2015 #48

Purist huh? I must have hit a nerve to inspire ad hominem as your first and only reaction. /nt Dragonfli Apr 2015 #55

I don't know you from Adam MaggieD Apr 2015 #59

Yep they seem to want to stir the pot. Rex Apr 2015 #114

Nader ran as an Independent and a Green without ever smokey nj Apr 2015 #49

Yet they both said one thing and did another, right? MaggieD Apr 2015 #52

Just go away. The fact of the matter is there isn't anything Bernie smokey nj Apr 2015 #57

Not going away MaggieD Apr 2015 #62

Yeah, I believe you. smokey nj Apr 2015 #65

couldn't be more transparent cali Apr 2015 #66

Seriously smokey nj Apr 2015 #70

Shame on you cali Apr 2015 #64

LOL - I know lots about him MaggieD Apr 2015 #77

yeah, sure you do. not. you've clearly demonstrated to all here how little you know cali Apr 2015 #83

Wow, that was a stunning comeback MaggieD Apr 2015 #86

+1 LordGlenconner May 2015 #153

Stupid point, Lieberman "took that step" and jumped off and ran in his Lieberman for Lieberman party TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #88

Yeah, that's exactly what the Naderites said MaggieD Apr 2015 #91

Lieberman jumped off "that step" after 2000, in 2000 he was the nominee for VP so TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #124

That shit Lieberman pulled after Lamont won the primary was despicable. cyberswede Apr 2015 #53

What's even more despicable is the lack luster smokey nj Apr 2015 #60

That's true. Fucking insiders club. :( cyberswede Apr 2015 #72

Can you back up your repeated claim about Nader going against what he'd said? Jim Lane Apr 2015 #116

Can and have MaggieD Apr 2015 #117

An interesting article, but it provides zero support for your assertion. Jim Lane Apr 2015 #118

It pretty much nails down every fact Naderites refuse to admit MaggieD Apr 2015 #119

It nails down every fact except the one you actually asserted. Jim Lane Apr 2015 #120

Same in WA State. Yet we have plenty of politicians who belong to the Democratic Party eridani Apr 2015 #46

Cali are you still supporting O'Malley or are you switching to Bernie? Bjorn Against Apr 2015 #63

I'm definitely switching cali Apr 2015 #73

Good to hear Bjorn Against Apr 2015 #82

Sanders-O'Malley hootinholler Apr 2015 #121

Do you support Bernie's alliance with Bibi? leftofcool Apr 2015 #127

He refused to attend nutty's speech to congress cali Apr 2015 #134

no registered dems in illinois, either. mopinko Apr 2015 #68

Works the same way in Ohio. Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #89

i was on the board of my local democratic party. they didnt give me a card mopinko Apr 2015 #132

Yeah, Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #133

So...does that mean Dr. Dean wasn't a registered Dem when he ran for our presidential nomination? Ken Burch Apr 2015 #71

sure, but both Pat and Dean are members of the Vermont dems party cali Apr 2015 #75

Stop trying to talk sense MaggieD Apr 2015 #87

ha Old and In the Way Apr 2015 #84

Ditto MaggieD Apr 2015 #90

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #92

Classy. Agschmid Apr 2015 #93

Is this the Third Way brigade's best effort against Bernie? LittleBlue Apr 2015 #94

Sure does look that way. smokey nj Apr 2015 #95

It doesn't look that way at all... Agschmid Apr 2015 #97

Pleas see my response to your post. I don't think ypu smokey nj Apr 2015 #101

Agree sorry. Agschmid Apr 2015 #105

Pretty sure as a VT resident Cali supports Bernie... Agschmid Apr 2015 #96

I'm not sure the post was directed at cali. I took it as smokey nj Apr 2015 #98

Fair enough. Agschmid Apr 2015 #100

I know that LittleBlue Apr 2015 #102

Ok, good. Agschmid Apr 2015 #104

cali is a Vermont resident and supporter of Bernie Sanders, explaining to those outside Vermont Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #137

I'm in for Bernie! backscatter712 Apr 2015 #111

Which states require aspirant Apr 2015 #113

I was a registered D when I lived in WV...here in Va there's no such thing. ileus Apr 2015 #122

It's the same here in Michigan, we don't register party affiliation notadmblnd Apr 2015 #128

Many might not understand because they live in states where you have to register mmonk Apr 2015 #129

But he was run for office against Democratic nominees numerous times Freddie Stubbs Apr 2015 #130

So did your hero, Joe Lieberman. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #141

Bernie Sanders actually split the vote in 1988 causing the election of a Republican to Congress Freddie Stubbs Apr 2015 #143

A seat Bernie took back for OUR side two years later. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #144

I am on the record agreeing with the proposition that supporting Lieberman after he lost the primary Freddie Stubbs May 2015 #146

That was clarified on Morning Joe today...I think it was Mika who stressed it... CTyankee Apr 2015 #131

Didn't know that fadedrose Apr 2015 #135

So Vermont has open primaries? jwirr Apr 2015 #138

Nor is there in MN BainsBane Apr 2015 #145

But you can decide which party's nomination to seek onenote May 2015 #150

Will he even be allowed to be on a Democratic Party Primary ticket HockeyMom May 2015 #151

You know what... Xyzse May 2015 #152