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In reply to the discussion: Report: Cops stun Tampa woman pregnant with sixteenth child [View all]4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)133. Response:
The female officer walked into a house where she knew there were fifteen kids hanging around. She walked in without a warrant. And you are surprised by what happened? The correct procedure was to fall back and call fro backup.
You know that she was aware of the number of kids in the house prior to entering?
Also it is not reasonable to assume children will set upon you, requiring a swat team to take them down.
I assume they know correct procedure better than you or I.
Yes, it was just a rock thrown through a window. So what was the rush? Why chase down a boy on an alleged complaint? And, here you're making excuses for the police: "Not an inherently violent crime. They had no reason to expect it would explode like that." And yet throughout this thread there are people who bring up past history on this woman that suggests otherwise. Given the history, (check out the Tampa Tribune) the cops were fools not to think it wouldn't explode this way.
So based on her history they should have treated her like a violent felon?
I suspect you'd have issues if they did.
Here you provide an example of what I just said. "this lady has been arrested for getting in to an altercation with her case-worker before. So I'm guessing that would have gone about the same way..."
Again, given the history this woman has had, her response would have been predictable with the cops. Anyone could have seen that she didn't expect the best from the police. She would have feared for her son.
Where I live, the cops would never barge into a house on an alleged rock throwing situation. They would have told the person that called it in that they couldn't pursue it without proof. Why are there two different sets of justice happening in the same state?
The right procedure was to find out who was providing all the assistance to this woman. That is who should have stepped in to help.
Again you're assuming these two cops were completely aware of her issues, that those issues excuse her behavior, and that a normal person would naturally assume this would explode in to violence.
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What does her being pregnant with her sixteenth child have to do with cops tasing her?
monmouth
May 2012
#1
And just to ruin their narrative, the children in the small photos below the article are all clean
monmouth
May 2012
#11
I feel bad for her kids, but I have a difficult time scraping up any sympathy for her.
Quantess
May 2012
#152
So if you're immature and have lots of kids, fair game to taze you? I'll keep that in mind.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#180
They can enter, any way they feel like, all they have to claim is, someone is in danger.
WingDinger
May 2012
#10
In this case they were talking to the kid about a crime he was believed to have committed
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#18
Are you willing to admit that while in your situation the "cops were out to get you"
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#25
That doesn't sound like someone who is trying to support his position.
Baitball Blogger
May 2012
#111
You're the one that made it appear she had to make a choice in order to be a good mother.
Baitball Blogger
May 2012
#182
The kid said he didnt do it. How much further can a cop go without ANY evidence?
WingDinger
May 2012
#146
You realize what the police use as alternatives to tazering when they are being attacked
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#205
" What a gun and shoot her? A billy club and beat her?", yes, exactly
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#208
From what I read two police officers entered the house after the women refused to let them in
think
May 2012
#211
Look, I suspect you'll never agree that the cops were in the right here
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#213
"They were retaliating for my busting a corruption racket, including cops and judges. "
dionysus
May 2012
#143
It turned in to a fiasco because she and her eldest daughter behaved incorrectly
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#39
Instead, an alleged rock throwing has put this family over the line, completely.
Baitball Blogger
May 2012
#72
Put them on a list, and on notice. Next time a rock is thrown, react. Oh, and require the reporter
WingDinger
May 2012
#153
It's true, all cops are liars whereas all civilians tell nothing but the truth
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#166
THe lady is CRAZY. Even more requirement to social support up. Bring social workers. Something.
WingDinger
May 2012
#171
Ah, so every police patrol to investigate vandalism should contain
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#176
cops are always tazering and shooting deranged people who attack them for no reason. funny.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#181
Cops ARE tazing PLENTY of deranged people, and punks who's attitudes they dont like.
WingDinger
May 2012
#183
Well, the authorities now have her where they can do anything they want to her.
Baitball Blogger
May 2012
#58
I wonder if that commenter would have acted differently if the woman were Michelle Duggar
tabbycat31
May 2012
#119
Naming the number stacks the conversational deck against her from the beginning. (nt)
Posteritatis
May 2012
#156
I think it's important she was pregnant, but not how many kids she has. I'd think they'd
HiPointDem
May 2012
#179
I doubt that tasing her is going to cause permanent physical harm to her or her fetus
FarCenter
May 2012
#33
Yet any other woman would have been applauded for protecting her children.
Baitball Blogger
May 2012
#44
They forced their way in because the kid hid and the mother refused to talk to them
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#49
How many suburban moms in nice neighborhoods would have responded the way this one did?
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#71
You're assuming of course that the mom is not taking care of her kids
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#125
I'm sorry FarCenter. I have to disagree that tasing cannot harm people.
Baitball Blogger
May 2012
#41
And you know what, that conclusion is the only one that I think is fair to make.
Baitball Blogger
May 2012
#63
Due to all sorts of hazards women have encountered over the last million years
FarCenter
May 2012
#60
"You were the one who claimed she should pick one child over the other."
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#110
"I think you should stop accusing me of lying. It's not very nice."
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#129
Again, you are relying on this absurd notion that she thought her son would literally *die*
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#157
If you can't see that falling back on that old canard is an admission of defeat then I suppose
4th law of robotics
May 2012
#167
You must have had some medical problem? Exercise is recommended during pregnancy.
FarCenter
May 2012
#75
Complications are not unexpected when women work up to the point of delivery.
Baitball Blogger
May 2012
#77
I think the intent of what she said is misrepresented in this video. It cuts off very quickly
HiPointDem
May 2012
#184
Generally one adds "allegedly" to crimes until the trial has been concluded...
Fumesucker
May 2012
#48
One of her kids was ALLEGEDLY throwing rock. She was likely the talk of the neighborhood, and could
WingDinger
May 2012
#37
You don't have to convince me about what dark intentions lie in the soul
Baitball Blogger
May 2012
#64
Breitbart ran articles hounding this woman when she was last in the news.
Starry Messenger
May 2012
#74
I cant protest, as if I get tazed, I am dead. So, my civil rights dont exist, if I want to survive.
WingDinger
May 2012
#155
If the story is true as relayed by the police...man, what a bunch of class in that bloodline.
flvegan
May 2012
#165
I looked at the backstory on this, & I don't understand why this woman's story was all over
HiPointDem
May 2012
#189
yeah, i was kind of being rhetorical. when you start noticing the propagandistic intent of
HiPointDem
May 2012
#199