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MaggieD

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53. And you're a champ when it comes to showing...

Fri May 1, 2015, 04:32 PM

May 2015

That you really have a very limited knowledge about the global economy, trade pacts, and politics in general.

And here is my copy and paste from my journal, which I saved just for purists like you that make that same dumb accusation about "my candidate." I will be happy to repeat it every time you make that dumb accusation.

* As I have repeated about 100 times now, I welcome ALL Democrats in the race. I don't believe in bashing any Democrat.

I will donate to every Dem in the primary (with the exception of Chafee if he runs). I believe in a robust primary process. The nomination is decided by the time my state holds one. I wil vote for the Democratic nominee in the general.

And now I will journal this so I can cut and paste it when "you folks" snarl at me because I won't pledge my fealty to your preferred candidate.

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HRC was critical of TPP before it was cool [View all] MaggieD May 2015 OP

IMO books like that are written in preparation for running for office. djean111 May 2015 #1

Actually she voted against CAFTA as a senator MaggieD May 2015 #3

As far as I can tell, currency manipulation is NOT addressed in the TPP. djean111 May 2015 #7

Actually it is MaggieD May 2015 #8

No, some politicians and economists think it should be, but right now - not in it. djean111 May 2015 #10

It's in there - the debate is how enforceable it is MaggieD May 2015 #13

Chuck Schumer said on MSNBC that TPP could not stop it. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #23

Stop the TPP totally, or US involvement? MaggieD May 2015 #25

TPP would not stop currency manipulation. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #29

No, it is not in there. You are simply flat-out wrong. Jim Lane May 2015 #40

It is a main thrust of the negotiations MaggieD May 2015 #44

Do you even read the stuff you post? You're completely wrong. Jim Lane May 2015 #54

Again, it is a FOCUS of the US negotiations MaggieD May 2015 #58

I'm going to put this simply, just for you. cali May 2015 #62

I think you have finally answered your own question! MaggieD May 2015 #63

The administration has recently admitted that it won't be part of the agreement cali May 2015 #67

"some people say" MaggieD May 2015 #71

You quote people who are NOT conducting the negotiations. Jim Lane May 2015 #70

We CAN'T push for anything, that is the problem, far more of a problem than what is in it or not, is sabrina 1 May 2015 #120

This has to be the most hilarious Aerows May 2015 #126

you are desperate cali May 2015 #59

It is part of the negotiations MaggieD May 2015 #61

one straw man after another. cali May 2015 #74

I'm not your honey MaggieD May 2015 #77

And you most certainly Aerows May 2015 #146

So far only 13 Democrats in the Senate Caretha May 2015 #109

It's in the House that only 13 dems have come out in support of the tpa cali May 2015 #121

Thank you for the correction Caretha May 2015 #125

So much bullshit .... Sheepshank May 2015 #14

I am not in the least bit desperate. djean111 May 2015 #20

We all have jobs that are answerable upline.....unless we are the CEO/owner/President Sheepshank May 2015 #24

Yeah, Hillary is a working stiff... Fumesucker May 2015 #122

Hillary did the right thing with the Server, Obama's emails have been hacked into! lewebley3 May 2015 #152

Are you really trying to imply the HRS can act independently from POTUS? Sheepshank May 2015 #153

Exactly - what an absurd thing to think MaggieD May 2015 #26

I like it when Democratic politicians listen to the voters. pnwmom May 2015 #76

"How we gonna run reform when we're the damn incumbent?!" Marr May 2015 #2

I guess when you can't debate an issue.... MaggieD May 2015 #4

Your premise is too absurd to 'debate'. Marr May 2015 #6

It's actually not absurd at all - it is factual MaggieD May 2015 #11

Uh... the "we don't know what's in it" BS is one of the TPP *defenders'* lines. Marr May 2015 #16

Try again - LOL! MaggieD May 2015 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author bvar22 May 2015 #37

k&r... spanone May 2015 #5

MaggieD, are you trying to bust bubbles? Thinkingabout May 2015 #9

I posted that yesterday cali May 2015 #15

No, that is the exact opposite of leadership MaggieD May 2015 #18

and up is down and red is blue. bullshit of the kind Orwell hated. cali May 2015 #38

It seems like you have never been in a leadership role MaggieD May 2015 #41

seems like you are posting more bullshit about something you can't possibly know cali May 2015 #69

I posted that exerpt from the article yesterday, dear. cali May 2015 #12

LOL - I will bet you didn't post that excerpt MaggieD May 2015 #17

bwahaha. Not to swift of you, darlin'. Have a heaping helping of yummy crow! cali May 2015 #30

Allow me to quote your post: MaggieD May 2015 #32

bwahahahaha. I am so loving this. cali May 2015 #35

Well, you think leadership is stamping your feet and yelling NO! MaggieD May 2015 #47

I remain unconvinced that you and thinking are on so much as nodding terms, Maggie cali May 2015 #88

Actually, it is secret. Snippets have been released? But it's Exilednight May 2015 #111

K&R! hrmjustin May 2015 #19

The record reads otherwise. AtomicKitten May 2015 #22

So says the right wing media MaggieD May 2015 #27

This is, frankly, more bullshit from you. Jim Lane May 2015 #33

Swoon. Jim, I think I love you. cali May 2015 #36

But you are great at calling people you disagree with a liar! MaggieD May 2015 #48

no, I am fairly good at calling bullshit, bullshit, however cali May 2015 #49

Oops, there you go again, popping off too soon MaggieD May 2015 #56

You should have actually read it..... MaggieD May 2015 #51

Nice to see you're finally (albeit implicitly) conceding the "gold standard" quotation. Jim Lane May 2015 #66

You're just embarrassing yourself. cali May 2015 #73

Thank you for your informed and informative posts deutsey May 2015 #134

Excellent response, Jim Lane Aerows May 2015 #141

Then she should have IMMEDIATELY said when entering the race that she is against Fast Track... cascadiance May 2015 #28

Why? MaggieD May 2015 #31

She won't be criticizing The President. bvar22 May 2015 #39

Let's face it... MaggieD May 2015 #46

Boy, you loaded more Buzz Words into one sentence that I've seen before. bvar22 May 2015 #57

As usual, bvar22, you get right to the heart of it Aerows May 2015 #143

That is bullshit. She doesn't have to criticize the President. It's about policy not personalities cali May 2015 #42

No-o-o.... She could criticize the REPUBLICANS who support this piece of crap! cascadiance May 2015 #64

In your own words, it's a form of leadership and she Exilednight May 2015 #113

It's a form of leadership to bash... MaggieD May 2015 #114

What world is that .... Russia? The reason we have a Exilednight May 2015 #117

and where is she on the issue this month? Motown_Johnny May 2015 #34

Too soon to say. Focus groups still being assembled and polled. (n/t) Jim Lane May 2015 #43

Same place she has been for over a decade MaggieD May 2015 #45

as I said, you're a champ when it comes to slinging it. cali May 2015 #50

And you're a champ when it comes to showing... MaggieD May 2015 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr May 2015 #68

Seriously? This has to be sarcasm.... right? Motown_Johnny May 2015 #75

Don't confuse me with the facts still_one May 2015 #52

Yeah, who was the Secretary of State who was negotiating the TPP from 2009 to 2013? jeff47 May 2015 #55

Poor Hillary-- such an outsider. Marr May 2015 #72

Posting positive news about Hillary. For shame! hrmjustin May 2015 #60

the problem is not that it's positive- I posted it yesterday- cali May 2015 #65

wow! so now it's OK for HRC supporters to criticize TPP? delrem May 2015 #78

the op is an amazing example of revisionist history. cali May 2015 #79

"evolving" the HRC campaign talking points "to the left" requires a lot of revisionism. delrem May 2015 #80

So am I reading this thread correctly? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #81

no, you are not and she has not cali May 2015 #82

This ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #94

She could announce she personally found a cure for cancer MaggieD May 2015 #83

your favorite substance really is straw cali May 2015 #84

Come on - admit it MaggieD May 2015 #87

ya, you read it right. kinda like we are keeping all this honest.... nt seabeyond May 2015 #86

complete fail. cali May 2015 #89

Way to semi-quote half a sentence MaggieD May 2015 #92

The part you're leaving out is what she did between 2009 and 2013. jeff47 May 2015 #101

No. I think that's covered here ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #103

No, actually it isn't covered there. jeff47 May 2015 #104

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #105

If that were true, saying she couldn't get them in the negotiations jeff47 May 2015 #106

Okay. 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #110

Notice that your defense of Hillary is completely inconsistent with the OP's defense of Hillary. Jim Lane May 2015 #118

Great post, you should put that up as an OP, I'd K&R it... Fumesucker May 2015 #123

I agree Ichingcarpenter May 2015 #133

Don't the three positions reflect three different points in time? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #135

Unlike her vote on the Iraq War Resolution, she has not said she made a mistake. Jim Lane May 2015 #136

Yep, they don't want her to have been "right" treestar May 2015 #128

yes, you are Enrique May 2015 #132

From the words from the book (excerpted) ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #137

I agree Enrique May 2015 #138

Is this like "I voted against it before I voted for it"? GummyBearz May 2015 #85

You realize she voted against CAFTA - right? MaggieD May 2015 #90

No. More like ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #96

Exactly - some people call that.... MaggieD May 2015 #98

Nope ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #100

She was also a Democrat before it became optional. nt ucrdem May 2015 #91

Bernie is still not a democrat cali May 2015 #93

Seems he can't make up his mind MaggieD May 2015 #95

Yes we noticed. ucrdem May 2015 #108

rec PowerToThePeople May 2015 #112

Well, nothing has changed. But, if that's all ya got.... morningfog May 2015 #116

War is Peace! woo me with science May 2015 #97

Is that what you call these links? MaggieD May 2015 #99

Catch-22... woo me with science May 2015 #102

That looks like an argument for tpp betterdemsonly May 2015 #107

So her criticism of the TPP was to support an aspect of it? morningfog May 2015 #115

One of the most Orwellian posts ever seen on DU cali May 2015 #124

I know, I have to laugh at that Aerows May 2015 #142

President Obama on free trade Jesus Malverde May 2015 #119

All the denial is hilarious treestar May 2015 #127

there's no denial. And if you can respond to one of Jim Lane's cali May 2015 #130

Can you explain something for me? cyberswede May 2015 #131

Explanation: This is a mix of Clinton quotation and someone else's commentary Jim Lane May 2015 #147

Thank you! cyberswede May 2015 #148

Why does she not speak out now against the TPP? peacebird May 2015 #129

Already covered in the thread MaggieD May 2015 #140

no good reasons. some in this thread claim she'd be attacking the president cali May 2015 #144

By the way, I have been posting criticism of the TPP here since 2013, so "almost a year ago" djean111 May 2015 #139

I wholeheartedly disagree Aerows May 2015 #145

kick cali May 2015 #149

DU rec...nt SidDithers May 2015 #150

You need to send this to Sanders followers, the are telling lies about Hillary on TPP!! lewebley3 May 2015 #151