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KittyWampus

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21. There aren't too many humans. The problem is the humans that are in charge

Reply to Gregorian (Reply #2)

Fri May 1, 2015, 04:37 PM

May 2015

make crappy decisions that benefit their little, tiny circle to the detriment to the rest of the planet.

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EDIT: Federal Fisheries Regulators Halt West Coast Sardine Season [View all] arcane1 May 2015 OP

kick, kick, kick.... daleanime May 2015 #1

Too...many...humans. Doing too many things. Gregorian May 2015 #2

Yup BrotherIvan May 2015 #5

It WAS predicted in the 70's.... dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #7

Childless and born in 1967 here! arcane1 May 2015 #9

Part of it is, the "population problem" isn't really one, in 1st world countries with birth control. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #46

There aren't too many humans. The problem is the humans that are in charge KittyWampus May 2015 #21

So you're saying a small number of people are responsible for acidification of oceans, Gregorian May 2015 #44

So I take it you are delivering this message to the countries Warren DeMontague May 2015 #47

There are no borders. It's a matter of total numbers. Gregorian May 2015 #71

No, it isn't. That's another completely ludicrous assertion, that global population is somehow Warren DeMontague May 2015 #74

Obviously one goes where they can make the biggest impact. That's academic. Gregorian May 2015 #75

Okay, making this a better planet, yes. But if you are talking about 1st world countries with access Warren DeMontague May 2015 #77

i agree with you because this problem with more than one issue needs to be addressed differently jwirr May 2015 #79

You will get no argument from me, on any of that. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #88

If the economic royalists were selling a better way, we would buy it Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #58

OK Shirley.... 840high May 2015 #66

Forgiven... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #68

Well the article in the OP seems to blame Fukushima. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #28

I definitely picked the wrong link to post on this topic :) arcane1 May 2015 #31

so which part is not true? questionseverything May 2015 #80

uh oh. Pickled sardine prices will skyrocket ErikJ May 2015 #3

Collectively as a species, we are morons. GoneFishin May 2015 #4

There's no mystery to boom and bust sardine populations. sufrommich May 2015 #6

Does this mean we're all not gonna die? B2G May 2015 #17

No, we're still all gonna die. sufrommich May 2015 #18

Damn. Back to smoking. B2G May 2015 #20

. arcane1 May 2015 #33

You only say that because everyone had died so far... Salviati May 2015 #37

Right, and climate change is natural. The ocean's problems go a lot further KittyWampus May 2015 #22

I'm not making the claim that climate change is natural sufrommich May 2015 #26

I linked to an LATimes article just below. Scientists aren't certain what part overfishing plays KittyWampus May 2015 #35

I also think that the ocean, being a system, may not be subject to either/or black/white dichotomies Warren DeMontague May 2015 #41

Very well said! KittyWampus May 2015 #70

Sorry, i stopped with the article when they tried to blame it on Fukushima. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #27

Well, here's an article from the LATimes that has no mention of "woo-Fukushima": KittyWampus May 2015 #34

Not being a "climate change denier", I wouldn't know. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #39

If ocean conditions are not favourable PowerToThePeople May 2015 #23

Is this the Gyre? It's like a gigantic plastic tarp thrown over miles of ocean. KittyWampus May 2015 #30

+1 pinto May 2015 #52

More species will follow as the collapse spreads up the foodchain. procon May 2015 #8

The decline in both sardine and herring fisheries in Pacific Ocean is killing truedelphi May 2015 #10

It was my earlier post about the pups that got me digging deeper into this arcane1 May 2015 #11

It was good to see your article about the fisheries. truedelphi May 2015 #73

I was wondering what was going on with the seals. This is terrible. liberal_at_heart May 2015 #12

Which is why many large, western coastal streams/major tribs are..... Chakaconcarne May 2015 #45

That is very important information to add to the discussion. n/t truedelphi May 2015 #72

Sardine populations crash periodically. Hasn't anybody been to Monterey? LeftyMom May 2015 #13

Unfortunately, the sea lions are suffering from this too arcane1 May 2015 #14

There is most likely a correlation,but that is not proof sufrommich May 2015 #24

It's at least as likely that the cause of the sea lion problem is warm water due to the drought. LeftyMom May 2015 #36

The guy who wrote the article referenced in the OP is this guy: sufrommich May 2015 #15

Here's the link to the original AP story about the Fed closure: arcane1 May 2015 #25

Obviously Fukushima is to blame. zappaman May 2015 #16

And this is why the Live Earth Festival should have been vegan. KittyWampus May 2015 #19

Starfish are melting, too! Warren DeMontague May 2015 #29

Edited arcane1 May 2015 #32

Fair 'nuff. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #38

I do! If I had bothered to, you know, READ the entire thing, it would've never been posted. arcane1 May 2015 #40

No worries. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #42

'Twasn't my first time, and surely not my last. arcane1 May 2015 #43

Good thing it's not radiation RobertEarl May 2015 #48

So--if one rejects ANY piece of overblown Fukushima hyperbolic bullshit, one must love fission power Warren DeMontague May 2015 #49

No it's all woo RobertEarl May 2015 #50

Straw man. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #51

is radiation good for sardines? Or bad? RobertEarl May 2015 #54

Fukushima is a real problem for the local area. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #55

You think? RobertEarl May 2015 #56

Yes, of course they have. They can detect absolutely infinitesimal amounts. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #57

That may, may not be true RobertEarl May 2015 #60

Fukushima is a clusterfuck. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #67

Hey, we could try this guys idea... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #61

We have, inadvertently RobertEarl May 2015 #62

Damn billionaires and warmakers raping and destroying the earth, then they blame it on us. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #63

Yeah, they made a huge mess of it RobertEarl May 2015 #64

Fucking HUGE! Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #65

No more swallows in the winter, either Major Nikon May 2015 #76

... Warren DeMontague May 2015 #78

Heh, this is where that comes from RobertEarl May 2015 #81

A bit about the sea stars RobertEarl May 2015 #82

Trick question. Yeah, that's it. Major Nikon May 2015 #83

Poster said they all lived in WV RobertEarl May 2015 #84

... Major Nikon May 2015 #85

See? RobertEarl May 2015 #86

OK Major Nikon May 2015 #87

Thanks for the edit. pinto May 2015 #53

Thanks! Haste does indeed make waste :) arcane1 May 2015 #59

Thanks Obama treestar May 2015 #69