Is that what you call these links? (Reply #99)

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Fri May 1, 2015, 07:21 PM

MaggieD (7,393 posts)

99. Is that what you call these links?

Because here is what you got:

1. HRC's role in the TPP was the same as every SoS in a potential U.S. trade pact. No more, no less. It's an international negotiation.

2. It's not ""Hillary's" TPP, and a post by someone else who claims that doesn't make that so.

3. Yeah, that's what she has said is wrong with it - it will hurt US workers. I think that is exactly the same reason she voted against CAFTA in 2005.

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153 replies	Author	Time	Post
HRC was critical of TPP before it was cool [View all]	MaggieD	May 2015	OP
IMO books like that are written in preparation for running for office.	djean111	May 2015	#1
Actually she voted against CAFTA as a senator	MaggieD	May 2015	#3
As far as I can tell, currency manipulation is NOT addressed in the TPP.	djean111	May 2015	#7
Actually it is	MaggieD	May 2015	#8
No, some politicians and economists think it should be, but right now - not in it.	djean111	May 2015	#10
It's in there - the debate is how enforceable it is	MaggieD	May 2015	#13
Chuck Schumer said on MSNBC that TPP could not stop it.	Elwood P Dowd	May 2015	#23
Stop the TPP totally, or US involvement?	MaggieD	May 2015	#25
TPP would not stop currency manipulation.	Elwood P Dowd	May 2015	#29
No, it is not in there. You are simply flat-out wrong.	Jim Lane	May 2015	#40
It is a main thrust of the negotiations	MaggieD	May 2015	#44
Do you even read the stuff you post? You're completely wrong.	Jim Lane	May 2015	#54
Again, it is a FOCUS of the US negotiations	MaggieD	May 2015	#58
I'm going to put this simply, just for you.	cali	May 2015	#62
I think you have finally answered your own question!	MaggieD	May 2015	#63
The administration has recently admitted that it won't be part of the agreement	cali	May 2015	#67
"some people say"	MaggieD	May 2015	#71
You quote people who are NOT conducting the negotiations.	Jim Lane	May 2015	#70
We CAN'T push for anything, that is the problem, far more of a problem than what is in it or not, is	sabrina 1	May 2015	#120
This has to be the most hilarious	Aerows	May 2015	#126
you are desperate	cali	May 2015	#59
It is part of the negotiations	MaggieD	May 2015	#61
one straw man after another.	cali	May 2015	#74
I'm not your honey	MaggieD	May 2015	#77
And you most certainly	Aerows	May 2015	#146
So far only 13 Democrats in the Senate	Caretha	May 2015	#109
It's in the House that only 13 dems have come out in support of the tpa	cali	May 2015	#121
Thank you for the correction	Caretha	May 2015	#125
So much bullshit ....	Sheepshank	May 2015	#14
I am not in the least bit desperate.	djean111	May 2015	#20
We all have jobs that are answerable upline.....unless we are the CEO/owner/President	Sheepshank	May 2015	#24
Yeah, Hillary is a working stiff...	Fumesucker	May 2015	#122
Hillary did the right thing with the Server, Obama's emails have been hacked into!	lewebley3	May 2015	#152
Are you really trying to imply the HRS can act independently from POTUS?	Sheepshank	May 2015	#153
Exactly - what an absurd thing to think	MaggieD	May 2015	#26
I like it when Democratic politicians listen to the voters.	pnwmom	May 2015	#76
"How we gonna run reform when we're the damn incumbent?!"	Marr	May 2015	#2
I guess when you can't debate an issue....	MaggieD	May 2015	#4
Your premise is too absurd to 'debate'.	Marr	May 2015	#6
It's actually not absurd at all - it is factual	MaggieD	May 2015	#11
Uh... the "we don't know what's in it" BS is one of the TPP defenders' lines.	Marr	May 2015	#16
Try again - LOL!	MaggieD	May 2015	#21
This message was self-deleted by its author	bvar22	May 2015	#37
k&r...	spanone	May 2015	#5
MaggieD, are you trying to bust bubbles?	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#9
I posted that yesterday	cali	May 2015	#15
No, that is the exact opposite of leadership	MaggieD	May 2015	#18
and up is down and red is blue. bullshit of the kind Orwell hated.	cali	May 2015	#38
It seems like you have never been in a leadership role	MaggieD	May 2015	#41
seems like you are posting more bullshit about something you can't possibly know	cali	May 2015	#69
I posted that exerpt from the article yesterday, dear.	cali	May 2015	#12
LOL - I will bet you didn't post that excerpt	MaggieD	May 2015	#17
bwahaha. Not to swift of you, darlin'. Have a heaping helping of yummy crow!	cali	May 2015	#30
Allow me to quote your post:	MaggieD	May 2015	#32
bwahahahaha. I am so loving this.	cali	May 2015	#35
Well, you think leadership is stamping your feet and yelling NO!	MaggieD	May 2015	#47
I remain unconvinced that you and thinking are on so much as nodding terms, Maggie	cali	May 2015	#88
Actually, it is secret. Snippets have been released? But it's	Exilednight	May 2015	#111
K&R!	hrmjustin	May 2015	#19
The record reads otherwise.	AtomicKitten	May 2015	#22
So says the right wing media	MaggieD	May 2015	#27
This is, frankly, more bullshit from you.	Jim Lane	May 2015	#33
Swoon. Jim, I think I love you.	cali	May 2015	#36
But you are great at calling people you disagree with a liar!	MaggieD	May 2015	#48
no, I am fairly good at calling bullshit, bullshit, however	cali	May 2015	#49
Oops, there you go again, popping off too soon	MaggieD	May 2015	#56
You should have actually read it.....	MaggieD	May 2015	#51
Nice to see you're finally (albeit implicitly) conceding the "gold standard" quotation.	Jim Lane	May 2015	#66
You're just embarrassing yourself.	cali	May 2015	#73
Thank you for your informed and informative posts	deutsey	May 2015	#134
Excellent response, Jim Lane	Aerows	May 2015	#141
Then she should have IMMEDIATELY said when entering the race that she is against Fast Track...	cascadiance	May 2015	#28
Why?	MaggieD	May 2015	#31
She won't be criticizing The President.	bvar22	May 2015	#39
Let's face it...	MaggieD	May 2015	#46
Boy, you loaded more Buzz Words into one sentence that I've seen before.	bvar22	May 2015	#57
As usual, bvar22, you get right to the heart of it	Aerows	May 2015	#143
That is bullshit. She doesn't have to criticize the President. It's about policy not personalities	cali	May 2015	#42
No-o-o.... She could criticize the REPUBLICANS who support this piece of crap!	cascadiance	May 2015	#64
In your own words, it's a form of leadership and she	Exilednight	May 2015	#113
It's a form of leadership to bash...	MaggieD	May 2015	#114
What world is that .... Russia? The reason we have a	Exilednight	May 2015	#117
and where is she on the issue this month?	Motown_Johnny	May 2015	#34
Too soon to say. Focus groups still being assembled and polled. (n/t)	Jim Lane	May 2015	#43
Same place she has been for over a decade	MaggieD	May 2015	#45
as I said, you're a champ when it comes to slinging it.	cali	May 2015	#50
And you're a champ when it comes to showing...	MaggieD	May 2015	#53
This message was self-deleted by its author	Marr	May 2015	#68
Seriously? This has to be sarcasm.... right?	Motown_Johnny	May 2015	#75
Don't confuse me with the facts	still_one	May 2015	#52
Yeah, who was the Secretary of State who was negotiating the TPP from 2009 to 2013?	jeff47	May 2015	#55
Poor Hillary-- such an outsider.	Marr	May 2015	#72
Posting positive news about Hillary. For shame!	hrmjustin	May 2015	#60
the problem is not that it's positive- I posted it yesterday-	cali	May 2015	#65
wow! so now it's OK for HRC supporters to criticize TPP?	delrem	May 2015	#78
the op is an amazing example of revisionist history.	cali	May 2015	#79
"evolving" the HRC campaign talking points "to the left" requires a lot of revisionism.	delrem	May 2015	#80
So am I reading this thread correctly? ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#81
no, you are not and she has not	cali	May 2015	#82
This ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#94
She could announce she personally found a cure for cancer	MaggieD	May 2015	#83
your favorite substance really is straw	cali	May 2015	#84
Come on - admit it	MaggieD	May 2015	#87
ya, you read it right. kinda like we are keeping all this honest.... nt	seabeyond	May 2015	#86
complete fail.	cali	May 2015	#89
Way to semi-quote half a sentence	MaggieD	May 2015	#92
The part you're leaving out is what she did between 2009 and 2013.	jeff47	May 2015	#101
No. I think that's covered here ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#103
No, actually it isn't covered there.	jeff47	May 2015	#104
Okay ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#105
If that were true, saying she couldn't get them in the negotiations	jeff47	May 2015	#106
Okay.	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#110
Notice that your defense of Hillary is completely inconsistent with the OP's defense of Hillary.	Jim Lane	May 2015	#118
Great post, you should put that up as an OP, I'd K&R it...	Fumesucker	May 2015	#123
I agree	Ichingcarpenter	May 2015	#133
Don't the three positions reflect three different points in time? ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#135
Unlike her vote on the Iraq War Resolution, she has not said she made a mistake.	Jim Lane	May 2015	#136
Yep, they don't want her to have been "right"	treestar	May 2015	#128
yes, you are	Enrique	May 2015	#132
From the words from the book (excerpted) ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#137
I agree	Enrique	May 2015	#138
Is this like "I voted against it before I voted for it"?	GummyBearz	May 2015	#85
You realize she voted against CAFTA - right?	MaggieD	May 2015	#90
No. More like ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#96
Exactly - some people call that....	MaggieD	May 2015	#98
Nope ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#100
She was also a Democrat before it became optional. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#91
Bernie is still not a democrat	cali	May 2015	#93
Seems he can't make up his mind	MaggieD	May 2015	#95
Yes we noticed.	ucrdem	May 2015	#108
rec	PowerToThePeople	May 2015	#112
Well, nothing has changed. But, if that's all ya got....	morningfog	May 2015	#116
War is Peace!	woo me with science	May 2015	#97
Is that what you call these links?	MaggieD	May 2015	#99
Catch-22...	woo me with science	May 2015	#102
That looks like an argument for tpp	betterdemsonly	May 2015	#107
So her criticism of the TPP was to support an aspect of it?	morningfog	May 2015	#115
One of the most Orwellian posts ever seen on DU	cali	May 2015	#124
I know, I have to laugh at that	Aerows	May 2015	#142
President Obama on free trade	Jesus Malverde	May 2015	#119
All the denial is hilarious	treestar	May 2015	#127
there's no denial. And if you can respond to one of Jim Lane's	cali	May 2015	#130
Can you explain something for me?	cyberswede	May 2015	#131
Explanation: This is a mix of Clinton quotation and someone else's commentary	Jim Lane	May 2015	#147
Thank you!	cyberswede	May 2015	#148
Why does she not speak out now against the TPP?	peacebird	May 2015	#129
Already covered in the thread	MaggieD	May 2015	#140
no good reasons. some in this thread claim she'd be attacking the president	cali	May 2015	#144
By the way, I have been posting criticism of the TPP here since 2013, so "almost a year ago"	djean111	May 2015	#139
I wholeheartedly disagree	Aerows	May 2015	#145
kick	cali	May 2015	#149
DU rec...nt	SidDithers	May 2015	#150
You need to send this to Sanders followers, the are telling lies about Hillary on TPP!!	lewebley3	May 2015	#151

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