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cali

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2. the big money borg. Hillary has long been part of it.

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Sat May 2, 2015, 09:05 AM

May 2015

And this has nothing to do with illegalities. It has to do with the role big money plays in politics.

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David Sirota: In Defense of Hillary Clinton, Democrats Embrace Citizens United Decision [View all] marmar May 2015 OP

Sirota just made the case for Sanders 2016, imo n/t fredamae May 2015 #1

+1000000000 woo me with science May 2015 #3

Agree peacebird May 2015 #7

the big money borg. Hillary has long been part of it. cali May 2015 #2

I'm ambivalent about Hillary, but conflating the Clinton Foundation with Hillary's checkbook is bull lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #4

Agree. GeorgeGist May 2015 #9

Absolutely. nt okaawhatever May 2015 #13

Two points... Had to jump in somewhere... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #40

It aspires to be a foundation with global reach not unlike the Gates foundation. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #42

I see quid...I don't see quo... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #43

Except for that 9 out of 10 thingy....as in "not always" Caretha May 2015 #72

If there were a quo... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #76

Why wouldn't we try to beat them at their own game? JaneyVee May 2015 #5

Agree GeorgeGist May 2015 #10

Because they're corrupt. Marr May 2015 #18

We can end Citizens United by beating them at their own game. JaneyVee May 2015 #20

That makes as much sense as digging your way Motown_Johnny May 2015 #21

You can dig your way out of a hole. Its called a tunnel. JaneyVee May 2015 #23

Kind of like having sex for chastity? 99Forever May 2015 #61

We may beat the Rs at their game but the big money guys are going to want something for their jwirr May 2015 #56

Ding ding! Winner winner chicken dinner! Populist_Prole May 2015 #60

So the correct decision is to unilaterally disarm? brooklynite May 2015 #6

Exactly. Nothing more than another Clinton hit piece. What an irresponsible article. nt okaawhatever May 2015 #14

Well, duh! One of the big reasons given as to why Hillary should be The One - BIG MONEY! djean111 May 2015 #8

+1 The problem presented as the excuse. woo me with science May 2015 #11

Well, I hope you make it an absolute condition of Sander's campaign that he not take money okaawhatever May 2015 #16

LOL! woo me with science May 2015 #17

Wow so the majority of Bernie's money comes from PACs and the majority of Clinton's money okaawhatever May 2015 #19

And who took more money from PAC's? LOL KittyWampus May 2015 #31

I guess you really CAN tell about people by the company they keep. n/t pa28 May 2015 #34

I am just saying that Hillary's big wad of money was given as an actual reason that she djean111 May 2015 #55

really? Florencenj2point0 May 2015 #52

Hillary is just playing by the rules. sulphurdunn May 2015 #12

No. You don't commit campaign suicide. You win and as soon as possible overturn those laws. CU will okaawhatever May 2015 #15

A progressive candidate sulphurdunn May 2015 #30

The problem is now presented as the excuse! woo me with science May 2015 #22

So, to be clear...even though the Republicans will raise $1 B + through Super PACS... brooklynite May 2015 #25

Yea, that's about right. sulphurdunn May 2015 #33

"Not to play" = give up brooklynite May 2015 #39

Sometimes it means "not a sucker" sulphurdunn May 2015 #46

explain then how you compete with the Republicans who WILL take every last SuperPAC dollar brooklynite May 2015 #48

You don't. That's the idea. sulphurdunn May 2015 #53

...and you believe you can win a national election on that basis? brooklynite May 2015 #54

I think you miss my point. sulphurdunn May 2015 #58

And in the meantime, I still think a Democrat is better...maybe you don't? brooklynite May 2015 #62

There is no meantime. sulphurdunn May 2015 #63

Good observation Populist_Prole May 2015 #26

^^^THIS^^^ L0oniX May 2015 #75

Unilateral disarmament does not lead to peace. geek tragedy May 2015 #24

Bad analogy. sulphurdunn May 2015 #37

Losing is not much of a strategy. nt geek tragedy May 2015 #65

Fighting for Tweedledum sulphurdunn May 2015 #66

The Democrats are not a rightist party. geek tragedy May 2015 #69

He made case for Hillary: If Hillary want to really win, She and Dem's have to win! lewebley3 May 2015 #27

Winning the battle but losing the war Populist_Prole May 2015 #28

Hillary was good for the 99% most successful Administration in History! lewebley3 May 2015 #32

To the GOP sulphurdunn May 2015 #38

If that is what you think Hillary: You have been lazy about learning about her! lewebley3 May 2015 #44

She cynically voted to give that imbecile sulphurdunn May 2015 #47

Again, the War was Bush's Decision alone: He said so!! lewebley3 May 2015 #77

Kosovo was a PNAC war nationalize the fed May 2015 #49

Dem's can only be good for 99% : if GOP win 99% will be fighting a war in Iran! lewebley3 May 2015 #45

You don't get it, and never will Populist_Prole May 2015 #59

Sirota is such a liar: "the party SEEMS to be collectively saying" KittyWampus May 2015 #29

Democrats have embraced a number of right wing concepts, Maedhros May 2015 #35

You left out the Heritage Foundation Health Insurance Mandate nationalize the fed May 2015 #50

David Sirota has been on a roll lately. pa28 May 2015 #36

If he's as successful at taking down Hillary as he was in taking down Rahm HRC will certainly be #45 DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #41

I'm Ready For Oligarchy - Are You? - Vote HRC - What Better Way To Enrich The 1% Even More cantbeserious May 2015 #51

this article is insane Florencenj2point0 May 2015 #57

What lies are there? uppityperson May 2015 #64

no! not the LEFT WING! and your sigline says Clinton's progressive--care to explain the difference? MisterP May 2015 #68

the reasoning is that if we don't support TPP we can't make it "more liberal" and if we're MisterP May 2015 #67

And which Democrats are those? ibegurpard May 2015 #70

Who writes this shit!? Caretha May 2015 #71

Sirota is as full of shit as a christmas turkey madokie May 2015 #73

Yer bad! Yer very very bad! L0oniX May 2015 #74