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oberliner

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115. Not sure what either of those statements have to do with anything

Sat May 2, 2015, 12:11 PM

May 2015

Yes, Obama was hugely popular online. But it was not like Ron Paul. I mean we ought to at least be able to acknowledge that there was a Ron Paul phenomenon online that dwarfed all the other Republican candidates, and yet he did not fare well in the primary. If one only went by what one read online, one would've thought he would do much better in the primaries than he did. I think that the Sanders campaign may be similar in that regard (and it may not). It is just an observation that in no way has anything to do with the actual policies of the candidates in question.

As to where Bernie Sanders was born, I have no idea what that has to do with anything.

My candidate is whoever end up getting the Democratic nomination. Be it HRC, Bernie, O'Malley, Joe Biden - you name it. All of them are infinitely better than the Republicans, and I will work my hardest to make sure the Democratic candidate wins.

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It ain't just DU [View all] cali May 2015 OP

I was right there with ya, Cali,... Wilms May 2015 #1

proudly weird cali May 2015 #2

Cali donnasgirl May 2015 #140

Maybe weird in the sense that the state is practically all-white oberliner May 2015 #8

yes, yes, vermont is just a nasty segregated hateful place full of bigots cali May 2015 #23

That is definitely not true oberliner May 2015 #26

I had family there in the beginning of settlement there. :D Love it. Good training for Alaska. :D roguevalley May 2015 #85

For what it's worth, I got your point, cheapdate May 2015 #170

Vermont was active in the underground railroad but mostly just as a "pass through" to Canada. A Simple Game May 2015 #64

Vermont also kicked some serious ass during the Civil War, sending roughly 10% of its population KingCharlemagne May 2015 #70

I don't think any single state is representative of the rest of the U.S. nt cyberswede May 2015 #24

Good point oberliner May 2015 #27

Are you suggesting that people of colour are less liberal and less progressive than whites? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #43

No oberliner May 2015 #56

Of course not. And don't read anything into the Ron Paul comparison either. smokey nj May 2015 #72

Actually, I accept his explanation. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #77

That's a pretty god awful logical mishmosh. Buzz Clik May 2015 #113

2010 Alaska: roguevalley May 2015 #86

The Anchorage School District does contend with 178 languages. Does that mitigate. ;) roguevalley May 2015 #87

Yes, Vermont is hugely prohibitionist regarding guns. Eleanors38 May 2015 #128

It's hilarious indeed! pablo_marmol May 2015 #174

Well, all those gun-toting liberals gotta live somewhere. Eleanors38 May 2015 #182

And there would be a lot more if it weren't for the climate. pablo_marmol May 2015 #184

One has to question how serious the controllers are about their "cause".... Eleanors38 May 2015 #187

"One has to question how serious......." pablo_marmol May 2015 #189

A little advice for supporters of other cadidates, playing the race card didn't work too well sabrina 1 May 2015 #103

ah you're saying racism isn't an issue CreekDog Jul 2015 #193

Every state can be considered "not typical" if you try. karynnj May 2015 #186

Weird... Fairgo May 2015 #21

Vermont Rules billhicks76 May 2015 #41

There are a lot of conservative dem types here. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #47

Exactly billhicks76 May 2015 #49

Yup, we have our only little Bob Dole brigade here LondonReign2 May 2015 #63

Oh, I heard Fundies and war mongers, too. R B Garr May 2015 #95

Uh billhicks76 May 2015 #99

Phew! At least we have Warren the Republican! R B Garr May 2015 #109

She Did Used To Be billhicks76 May 2015 #143

No one gives a shit about what someone did in high school or college. R B Garr May 2015 #147

Good Point billhicks76 May 2015 #172

Reductio ad absurdum LondonReign2 May 2015 #138

Yes, the Bob Dole brigade comment was so much better. R B Garr May 2015 #148

Sadly you are right about DU being more conservative than many places. A Simple Game May 2015 #69

If I had to rank 50 states for "where would I most want the POTUS to be from" carolinayellowdog May 2015 #129

Since when is "weird" a pejorative? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #131

"Weird" became a perjorative in the 1950s ... Quasimodem May 2015 #159

"Sorry to hear about you and your wife."--Why? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #161

Glad to hear it. Quasimodem May 2015 #166

Some uncomprehending souls seem to think that I have a strange sense of humor. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #167

This is what a lot of people are going to be saying: A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #3

They already are BrotherIvan May 2015 #151

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actually, genius, it nothing like Will's post which I didn't care for. duh. cali May 2015 #9

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And the tag team attacking or Sanders supporters is off to a strong start. Bugenhagen May 2015 #16

a couple of things: there is huge denial going on here. Hillary supporters proclaim cali May 2015 #25

"It's not true of course"... brooklynite May 2015 #185

How is the OP dumb? cyberswede May 2015 #28

Bernie is generating great excitement even though he is barely started. Enthusiast May 2015 #6

Not likely! leftofcool May 2015 #13

That's it? Not likely? Not likely, what? Enthusiast May 2015 #17

Why not? Specifically? nt cyberswede May 2015 #30

Hey LoC, have you met MaggieD? Cosmic Kitten May 2015 #89

LOL BrotherIvan May 2015 #152

Do you honestly believe that? workinclasszero May 2015 #134

I've already seen it. nt. druidity33 May 2015 #136

Yes. Because on the issues Bernie's policies appeal to a huge range of voters. Enthusiast May 2015 #163

A little similar to the Ron Paul phenomenon not too long ago oberliner May 2015 #7

oh, cute. I'd say it had more in common with the Howard Dean phenomenon cali May 2015 #10

Linking Bernie to Paul in the sense that they were/are both hugely popular online oberliner May 2015 #11

+1 leftofcool May 2015 #14

You rave. Bugenhagen May 2015 #15

Paul had a massive and loyal Internet following. oberliner May 2015 #19

so was Dean with whom Bernie has much more in common cali May 2015 #20

They're trying to dissuade people from supporting Bernie Sanders smokey nj May 2015 #29

I encourage all people to support Bernie Sanders oberliner May 2015 #31

Of course not. smokey nj May 2015 #33

Bizarre that anyone would think otherwise oberliner May 2015 #36

Ok. smokey nj May 2015 #39

So if Oberliners posts were on aspirant May 2015 #93

oh baloney. that sure isn't what your presence in this thread looks like cali May 2015 #40

I think you are seeing something that is not there oberliner May 2015 #59

didnt bernie and paul team up to get the fed audited? questionseverything May 2015 #132

Hear Hear, lets all suport people who support people! Cosmic Kitten May 2015 #90

The internet was a very different place back in the Howard Dean days oberliner May 2015 #35

sorry, no. the dean phenomena was very much driven by the internet cali May 2015 #46

Not sure what you are saying no to oberliner May 2015 #54

The comparison with Dean is valid LordGlenconner May 2015 #121

paul took positions that were heteredox shaayecanaan May 2015 #42

Obama was hugely popular online also. Bernie was born in NY btw. So, can we get to the real reasons sabrina 1 May 2015 #104

Not sure what either of those statements have to do with anything oberliner May 2015 #115

Because as I said above, it is a sign that young people are supporting JDPriestly May 2015 #127

And pretending JoeyT May 2015 #126

Or the Obama phenomena? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #48

Obama raised enormous amounts of money on-line. JDPriestly May 2015 #125

Really? Bernie is no better than Ron Paul? I cannot say the name I would like to call you. Enthusiast May 2015 #171

About a month ago I was talking with my dad. MadrasT May 2015 #18

+1 Interesting about your father, I think there are others like him in this sense. appalachiablue May 2015 #22

Knowing my pop, he is probably already making calls... MadrasT May 2015 #34

All the yard signs I've seen so far are running 26-65 bucks, unless you want to buy them in Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #50

Yeah, it is a little soon for official yard signs, LOL. MadrasT May 2015 #58

He sounds just great, must have very good sense and perception too! I want to get some appalachiablue May 2015 #52

Your dad sounds pretty great, too. MadrasT May 2015 #60

Bernie may still catch fire among the Democratic electorate but... wyldwolf May 2015 #32

There certainly is a loud minority here LondonReign2 May 2015 #66

And over on reddit, in just a couple of days, over 25,000 people have cali May 2015 #74

I keep remembering what he said: that he was talking to a lot of people, and wasn't going Voice for Peace May 2015 #37

Great observation, Cali! Pooka Fey May 2015 #38

Do you think Sanders could win in the general election? Vattel May 2015 #44

I'm focused on the primary and the issues that Bernie has the potential to cali May 2015 #51

I agree that Sanders' being in the primary is a good thing, but Vattel May 2015 #55

What makes you think Bernie can't win in the general? He has way more appeal to A Simple Game May 2015 #76

If he can win the primary, I think he'll have proven he can win the general. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #53

Thanks, I see your point. Vattel May 2015 #57

I don't think any sort of 'average' voter actually matters. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #61

Obviously I didn't say that "that specific block of voters is, on average, 'more conservative.'" Vattel May 2015 #65

Stipulated, although there's a second half of the argument I didn't address in that comment. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #71

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for drawing my attention to these considerations. Vattel May 2015 #75

You are certainly welcome. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #79

Just a note and fairly recent nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #110

I did not know this BrotherIvan May 2015 #157

Yup, it was first tested in 2014 nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #160

If it's at the state level don't we have Democrats in majority there? BrotherIvan May 2015 #162

Oh the dems control both the Assembly and the Senate nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #165

They can't win any other way BrotherIvan May 2015 #168

I am talking California Coastal areas nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #169

I think that Clinton CAN'T. PassingFair May 2015 #80

Seems apparent that the Hillary fan club is scared of Bernie. Scuba May 2015 #45

How does Bernie's message resonating ... NanceGreggs May 2015 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #112

I have to assume ... NanceGreggs May 2015 #114

in fact deleting nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #116

I didn't say your observations ... NanceGreggs May 2015 #124

Oh, there's a fan club all right .... Scuba May 2015 #179

Do you really want to play this game? NanceGreggs May 2015 #181

+1 L0oniX May 2015 #183

"what color is the sky in your world?" Cryptoad May 2015 #62

Blue. I deal with reality. You? Haven't seen that. cali May 2015 #67

The redditt forums for president by the numbers Ichingcarpenter May 2015 #68

Please Bernie, No rides in small airplanes. rgbecker May 2015 #73

DC is the "bubble", not DU. PassingFair May 2015 #78

The Beltway Bubble! spot on. Cosmic Kitten May 2015 #91

Most cogent post of the entire thread n/t Populist_Prole May 2015 #97

Let's be real here aspirant May 2015 #102

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba May 2015 #180

No, it sure as hell ain't just DU Autumn May 2015 #81

It does!!! smokey nj May 2015 #82

i could easily see this happening have a pretty large circle of first time voters in my life. nt seabeyond May 2015 #83

Bump Jesus Malverde May 2015 #84

Okay, but let's be reasonable... malthaussen May 2015 #88

It could be made into a monster.... Cosmic Kitten May 2015 #92

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It sure as hell isn't! woo me with science May 2015 #94

It's a meme that is trotted out when nothing else works AgingAmerican May 2015 #96

It's really ironic that LiberalElite May 2015 #98

Real world May Day event nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #100

I wonder how any Democrat has ever won any political office when I look at this endless NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #101

Wasn't Jerry Brown the last man standing besides Clinton before he finally won out? brewens May 2015 #105

ive donated. n/t iamthebandfanman May 2015 #106

As another DUer put it, the Turd Way crowd is loading their collective pants hifiguy May 2015 #107

That "another DUer"... Buzz Clik May 2015 #111

"If he can get his message out" is the key determinant. Maedhros May 2015 #122

Kick and R. BeanMusical May 2015 #117

Social media isn't the real world either... brooklynite May 2015 #118

K&R. Glad to hear it. Overseas May 2015 #119

The year 2019: "Hey, cali, remember the 2016 primaries? ROFL!" NYC_SKP May 2015 #120

In the real world, most people don't give a flying fuck about public policy eridani May 2015 #123

fail. raising $1.5 million on social media in 24 hours, is something to cheer about cali May 2015 #133

The fundraising is great, but that does not mean that the general electorate is well informed eridani May 2015 #137

Go Bernie go! angrychair May 2015 #130

As others have pointed out, it is not about Bernie Sanders. zeemike May 2015 #135

And even several right-wingers on my FB are enthused. That is something, as he is about as silvershadow May 2015 #139

You can tell this Bernie attention is annoying the Hillary people. Cracks me up. nt Logical May 2015 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #145

It wasn't just DU with Kucinich in 2004 either. It still was a small minority. Just like now. stevenleser May 2015 #144

Bad hair, yes, but he's got a sexy NY accent. nt valerief May 2015 #146

All the Democrats and left-leaning independents that I personally know in Alaska Blue_In_AK May 2015 #149

Hey, Bernie has cute hair, kinda wild like einstein. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #150

knr for bernie! shanti May 2015 #153

They are both too old look how Obama aged in the job doc03 May 2015 #154

K&R! marym625 May 2015 #155

Join me.. yuiyoshida May 2015 #156

we Vermoters considered ourselves to be far more normal compared to most of states. :-D TRoN33 May 2015 #158

Yes, but ... Quasimodem May 2015 #164

Because there are no lights and no billboards on highway, that makes us... TRoN33 May 2015 #173

You left out one other plus. pablo_marmol May 2015 #176

When it is folly to be wise, etc., etc. n/t Quasimodem May 2015 #190

I can't disagree with y'all! :-) NT pablo_marmol May 2015 #175

you realize I am a Vermonter, right? cali May 2015 #177

You're 802er? I did had discussions with friends in Brattleboro TRoN33 May 2015 #192

Love Bernie Sanders and Vermont culture. pablo_marmol May 2015 #178

That's a great sign. Goblinmonger May 2015 #188

I agree with you..Word of Mouth Advertising is Very Effective.. Stuart G May 2015 #191