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Warren DeMontague

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137. If it's any consolation, it wasnt just you.

Reply to ismnotwasm (Reply #119)

Sat May 2, 2015, 05:16 PM

May 2015

But i suspect you've already figured that out.

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High school prom poster sex-shames young women [View all] demmiblue Apr 2015 OP

Why does no one ever preach to our boys? notadmblnd Apr 2015 #1

I believe that poster IS targeted at boys. Xithras Apr 2015 #3

I agree B2G Apr 2015 #4

yes, but it is the female's character that seems to be the problem notadmblnd Apr 2015 #7

Yes. It's a very patronizing message. Xithras Apr 2015 #9

exactly Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #70

The don't-rape subtext isn't bad... Orsino Apr 2015 #8

Sex corrupts a womans character and it's a mans job to protect her from herself. Xithras Apr 2015 #10

Even worse, I suspect it's a don't-steal message... Orsino Apr 2015 #11

I think you have identified the crux of the biscuit here. hifiguy Apr 2015 #58

Why are religious groups allowed to promote their beliefs procon Apr 2015 #12

yeah, that too. notadmblnd Apr 2015 #13

Indoctrination? Ms. Yertle May 2015 #107

In the 1950's, getting laid on prom night was a right of passage. Xithras Apr 2015 #2

lol - wow. Words fail. closeupready Apr 2015 #37

You disagree? Xithras Apr 2015 #41

It's true. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #94

And, you think that's okay? ann--- Apr 2015 #54

Err...why wouldn't it be? Xithras Apr 2015 #71

Not all couples ann--- Apr 2015 #77

"For the girl".... But not "for the guy"? How odd. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #78

Well... Xithras Apr 2015 #79

Well ann--- May 2015 #101

FWIW-- Ms. Yertle May 2015 #105

Why not? Warren DeMontague May 2015 #91

oh yeah .. great passage for the guy DustyJoe May 2015 #128

So, if she would decide to have sex on prom night, somehow Sheldon Cooper Apr 2015 #5

No, but if ann--- Apr 2015 #56

That poster won't deter rapists. yardwork Apr 2015 #83

Didn't think it would ann--- May 2015 #102

Unbelievable. yardwork May 2015 #112

Wow ismnotwasm May 2015 #117

What is so ann--- May 2015 #130

Tell that to the women in the ME who get raped Jamastiene May 2015 #138

So the takeaway here is ... what? I'm struggling to understand closeupready Apr 2015 #6

I'm with you. It's seems like a pretty positive message to me. cbayer Apr 2015 #14

it's sponsored by two religious groups. at a public school. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #17

I assessed it without regard to who was sponsoring it, but I did then cbayer Apr 2015 #26

Ugh, gross. Sex is shameful and taints your character, if you don't have a penis. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #27

Where in the world do you get the message that sex is shameful. cbayer Apr 2015 #31

Are you implying that the message of that poster was NOT about sex? PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #34

Well, yes, I did not really see a message about sex at all, except possibly one that cbayer Apr 2015 #39

The message is literally about sex. That's not an "interpretation", it's fact. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #42

Well, since not everyone agrees with you, maybe I'm not fucked up. cbayer Apr 2015 #43

Hostile? That's your interpretation. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #45

Yes, it is my interpretation and I do not present it as fact. cbayer Apr 2015 #47

It feels like you're being protective of religious organizations PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #49

Seriously? I'm not protecting religious organizations at all. cbayer Apr 2015 #52

Well it says right in the OP and it's on the poster itself so I am not sure how you did that. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #55

Where is sex on the poster itself? The OP is an interpretation with which I disagree. cbayer Apr 2015 #60

You refer to her views as 'fucked up' - that is def hostile. closeupready Apr 2015 #50

lol PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #51

Aren't you classy, quiet and shy? REP Apr 2015 #64

I know, right? PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #66

lol closeupready Apr 2015 #68

It seems like a positive message ChazII Apr 2015 #18

It certainly did stir up some feelings. cbayer Apr 2015 #32

Yes, I was going on the ChazII Apr 2015 #72

Agreed. I think those with an agenda are taking this WAY beyond closeupready Apr 2015 #35

Hrm, you don't think that the authors of the message have an 'agenda'? PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #36

Yes, I do, and I'm troubled by the melange of public/religious here, closeupready Apr 2015 #38

Clearly there is a great deal of variability in how people interpret this, cbayer Apr 2015 #40

No there's not. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #44

Well, all I can say that it is you that is equating character with sex. cbayer Apr 2015 #46

The poster does not say "respect". It says "protect". Tell me cbayer, what does a young man do Luminous Animal May 2015 #120

The very first word at the top is 'respect'. B2G May 2015 #121

The title of the posters says, "A night to protect her character." Luminous Animal May 2015 #122

My point is, it says both. nt B2G May 2015 #123

What do young women need to be protected from? Seriously? cbayer May 2015 #124

None of that has anything to do with a man protecting a woman. Luminous Animal May 2015 #125

There is a lot of date rape going on and if messages like this give cbayer May 2015 #126

Got it. Not raping is protecting a woman. Luminous Animal May 2015 #133

OMG, that's not what I said. cbayer May 2015 #135

OK lets start with this: procon Apr 2015 #19

Also this. Well said. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #22

While I agree that who sponsored the message can be important, the fact that they are religious cbayer Apr 2015 #28

Just stop. LeftOfWest Apr 2015 #65

Stop what? Expressing my opinion? cbayer Apr 2015 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author demmiblue May 2015 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author cbayer May 2015 #127

You are right, that was a low blow. demmiblue May 2015 #129

Thanks demmiblue. I greatly respect that. cbayer May 2015 #131

A fine analysis. hifiguy Apr 2015 #59

"Courageous, fearless, independent, confident" are included oberliner May 2015 #90

They are, but that isn't the point at all, is it? nt procon May 2015 #95

Not sure oberliner May 2015 #97

Protect her character treestar Apr 2015 #21

Of course. But his is bolstered. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #23

Where do you get the message about sex? cbayer Apr 2015 #29

Why, from Kelsey Schindl, the girl at the center of this. procon Apr 2015 #61

She did express that as her belief and I respect her take on it, but cbayer Apr 2015 #63

It seems pretty clear treestar May 2015 #106

I don't think guys should pressure girls into doing Ms. Yertle May 2015 #108

No. Why would you ask that? treestar May 2015 #111

Nonsense. Girls of good character have sex all the time. cbayer May 2015 #115

That's what the message says treestar May 2015 #116

I don't know what those that wrote the message were trying to say and I don't cbayer May 2015 #118

The implication is that a woman's character is somehow damaged by sex Matariki Apr 2015 #24

Prom is for women...? Um, don't think so. closeupready Apr 2015 #33

What are you talking about? Your response makes no sense. Matariki Apr 2015 #80

You then believe a female requires a male to protect her character? LanternWaste Apr 2015 #25

It's talking down to kids ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #76

Perhaps they don't have 'better' sex ed classes, and they know closeupready Apr 2015 #84

Bullshit ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #88

And who are you to call bullshit here? No, not bullshit. closeupready May 2015 #89

So you don't think religious groups like the one behind the poster are blocking sex-ed? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #96

It is equating sex with character Marrah_G Apr 2015 #82

What does the poster mean by "Character" and why does it rely on others to be... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #98

Update: Controversial prom flyer removed from high school hack89 Apr 2015 #15

Good. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #20

Thanks for the update. n/t demmiblue May 2015 #87

What's the "A Night to Protect His Character" poster look like? hunter Apr 2015 #16

Protecting his character ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2015 #30

I was thinking of the guy who get's his balls kicked up into his throat by his date... hunter Apr 2015 #62

I think a village wizard poster would be more direct Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #48

Have we not gotten anywhere? Laffy Kat Apr 2015 #53

The 50's had the highest rate of teen pregnancy post WWII underpants Apr 2015 #57

Prior to the 1980s, most pregnant teens were married. Petrushka May 2015 #103

My take on it: frogmarch Apr 2015 #69

THIS is what outrages you? Telcontar Apr 2015 #73

If this thread makes Jesus weep, he needs to seriously assess his priorities. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #74

Blah, blah, blah. demmiblue May 2015 #86

And this thread is what outrages you? beam me up scottie May 2015 #93

Everything we need to know about you wrapped up in one post. n/t JTFrog May 2015 #99

Ditto Telcontar May 2015 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog May 2015 #104

It should be an ad for a dry cleaner instead ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2015 #75

where's the corresponding poster of the boy figure? are boys not expected to be respectful, locdlib Apr 2015 #81

Just imagine what would happen, if High School students started having sex. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #92

Well I Wouldn't Have been a Gran'ma at 38 ismnotwasm May 2015 #119

If it's any consolation, it wasnt just you. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #137

Maybe a poster aimed at girls Ms. Yertle May 2015 #109

Maybe... no. demmiblue May 2015 #110

My problem with this is the Prom Night focus. MineralMan May 2015 #113

What? No chastity belt? icymist May 2015 #114

It's the kind of thing.... daleanime May 2015 #132

Hahahahahahaha, you can have all of those things & still have sex.. giftedgirl77 May 2015 #134

Quiet is on there too? Jamastiene May 2015 #136