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murielm99

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125. Humprhrey, Muskie, or

Reply to Iggo (Reply #121)

Sun May 3, 2015, 06:08 PM

May 2015

someone who could have won.

It is time to be realistic. Too much is at stake.

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I don't give a shit if it's "naive". I believe a candidate has the obligation to [View all] cali May 2015 OP

Important post. Thank you. woo me with science May 2015 #1

and it's beautiful! Fairgo May 2015 #41

What an excellent post! Enthusiast May 2015 #56

Yes- I totally agree. cilla4progress May 2015 #106

+++++++++ L0oniX May 2015 #115

"I think it's the floor, the bare minimum of what a candidate owes voters ..." Hear, hear! Scuba May 2015 #2

Which of the SEVEN questions forthemiddle May 2015 #3

Good god, that's pathetic. woo me with science May 2015 #21

Evasion - Evasion - Evasion - Evasion - Evasion - Evasion - Evasion -- So Typically HRC cantbeserious May 2015 #50

I hope voters will see through it MissDeeds May 2015 #81

It's obvious just from DU that many don't see through it, at least not yet. n/t A Simple Game May 2015 #99

It is not really obvious to me. merrily May 2015 #151

It's insulting... CoffeeCat May 2015 #146

And not a platform to run on anyway. merrily May 2015 #152

it's just painful- cringeworthy cali May 2015 #54

Her "answer" to the second question was quite Palinesque radiclib May 2015 #93

My favorite... Bjorn Against May 2015 #102

"We have a plan for my plan"? Ken Burch May 2015 #189

Well this one is the classic non answer. zeemike May 2015 #34

And reading all of the questions forthemiddle May 2015 #40

Bad reporter also. Maybe s/he did this, but the reporter should have followed up with the real sabrina 1 May 2015 #117

That kind of reporting is dead. zeemike May 2015 #118

Maybe we'll see it resurrected when they question Sanders. merrily May 2015 #153

Any trade deal "has" to do those things? Which ones actually have? merrily May 2015 #158

"Quality" of her answers aside, how are those "media" questions even relevant to the platform she is merrily May 2015 #150

I said repeatedly my fear was, she'd run on shit like "my most inspirational bible verse" Warren DeMontague May 2015 #155

I see nothing on his presidential website but a donate button..... boston bean May 2015 #4

go to his Senate web site. It's specific as all get out. cali May 2015 #5

Just for you.... TM99 May 2015 #7

That link takes me no where. boston bean May 2015 #8

you can play coy all you like but everyone knows cali May 2015 #10

Pretty much the same with Clinton. She has a long record. boston bean May 2015 #12

Thats the problem. Fuddnik May 2015 #17

No, I don't think so. Her record is strong and liberal and not far off from Bernies... boston bean May 2015 #18

They may close on social issues but miles apart on foreign policy, rhett o rick May 2015 #29

Play the Misogyny Card Often? Ned Flanders May 2015 #101

Got it in one (n/t) bread_and_roses May 2015 #127

baloney cali May 2015 #19

You said it. I've read a lot of interviews with HRC and all I can say is> BlueJazz May 2015 #76

What utter nonsense. woo me with science May 2015 #26

+1 rbnyc May 2015 #135

+10000000 MaggieD May 2015 #75

Then something is wrong with your browser. TM99 May 2015 #11

nope, still doesn't work.. nt boston bean May 2015 #13

Works for me. nt MannyGoldstein May 2015 #15

Works on FireFox and Opera. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #31

Works fine here Plucketeer May 2015 #44

I had to right click on the link and "open in new tab" They_Live May 2015 #46

I tried this and it worked. Iggo May 2015 #57

!!!!!!!!!!!! BrotherIvan May 2015 #88

Try clicking the LEFT mouse button LondonReign2 May 2015 #61

Works for me, too. nt Nay May 2015 #63

It doesn't work for me either. OneCrazyDiamond May 2015 #71

Update your Firefox. TM99 May 2015 #123

It blocks Hillary supporters automatically. L0oniX May 2015 #94

It works perfectly. AgingAmerican May 2015 #97

Still works for me. nt City Lights May 2015 #187

Doesn't seem to work on Safari. nt Bonobo May 2015 #14

There is a problem with Safari try just berniesanders.com/issues/ LiberalArkie May 2015 #20

I use safari, it works for me. eom Raine1967 May 2015 #47

Me, too. lob1 May 2015 #111

Way OT davidpdx May 2015 #164

Chrome comes up with a blank page. GeorgeGist May 2015 #16

+1 uponit7771 May 2015 #84

I am on Chrome. TM99 May 2015 #124

Thanks it worked for me when I refreshed it. zeemike May 2015 #49

Try this one RoccoR5955 May 2015 #77

Stop trying to open it in iTunes. MattSh May 2015 #108

It works fine for me. I'm using Firefox. nt City Lights May 2015 #186

Thanks for the link. dgibby May 2015 #67

Thanks, TM99. Link works fine. nt City Lights May 2015 #185

So how much did you give? n/t A Simple Game May 2015 #100

Try Brunch With Bernie tazkcmo May 2015 #130

But if you take clear positions, then you can't change as easily with the political winds Ms. Toad May 2015 #6

+100000 Hence the striving to avoid any position at all. woo me with science May 2015 #30

When people are paying attention it's not good to look like you reverse yourself... HereSince1628 May 2015 #9

Thanks, good analysis and informative / nt/ PosterChild May 2015 #126

Of course, Walter Mondale did try telling the truth, but too many US tblue37 May 2015 #22

You beat me to it by two minutes skepticscott May 2015 #28

Yep. One thing I fear is that even if we manage to elect Bernie, the entrenched weasels (in both tblue37 May 2015 #53

I don't think this is correct LondonReign2 May 2015 #62

You are right, if course. Haven't quite awakened yet. But the Beltway mouths really tblue37 May 2015 #69

The three most qualified (by ability) presidents in our history 1939 May 2015 #92

nor to Al Gore Duppers May 2015 #98

For many reasons, having zero to do with Mondale's answers, Reagan was unbeatable. merrily May 2015 #156

How nice it would be skepticscott May 2015 #23

Just admit that there is NOTHING ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #24

nope. I would applaud her if she opposed the tpp cali May 2015 #27

Yeah ... Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #33

+1 betsuni May 2015 #32

I don't have a problem with the vulgarity ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #39

Yes. betsuni May 2015 #43

what a load. I don't even mention anyone in the o cali May 2015 #48

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #52

ok. you don't have a candidate. and sorry, this is not an atack on cali May 2015 #55

Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #65

^^^THIS^^^ L0oniX May 2015 #95

Since it has been very condescendingly been explained to me that the only important djean111 May 2015 #36

Bullhockey. She should oppose predatory policies woo me with science May 2015 #37

And that has nothing to do with what I posted ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #42

Because she's not trustworthy and her words contradict her record. [nt] Jester Messiah May 2015 #116

Okay. That's fine ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #120

I say loud and clear there is NOTHING HC could say/do that would make me vote for her bread_and_roses May 2015 #128

That is fine ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #136

Except that many of us who find Hillary unacceptable do just that. Jester Messiah May 2015 #141

I am saying the person that I responded to is not a member of the base ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #169

Members of the Democratic Base do not support Bush/Republican/Heritage Foundation policies. sabrina 1 May 2015 #145

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #170

After 25 years of Clintons, bvar22 May 2015 #131

Yes. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #137

I would thrilled to hear Hillary adopt real FDR principles like Bernie. Enthusiast May 2015 #58

And when she has spoken to ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #68

Because she also has a track record. jeff47 May 2015 #89

"real" being the key word. She is not a newcomer to public life. We've seen merrily May 2015 #159

Hillary is a liar Oilwellian May 2015 #104

the OP is about Sanders vs all other candidates. But on the topic of Clinton... magical thyme May 2015 #82

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #85

Sure. It all comes down to DUers who criticize Hillary. LOL! merrily May 2015 #157

yeah. Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #171

Wet finger policies fadedrose May 2015 #25

"There go the people. I must follow them for I am their leader." nt Buns_of_Fire May 2015 #70

The voters as a whole decide treestar May 2015 #35

Kicked! ibewlu606 May 2015 #38

It's not naive. It's the way things were supposed to be. RiverNoord May 2015 #45

Yes. Have you ever expressed disappointment that BO didn't fullfill some campaign promise only GoneFishin May 2015 #51

That is not how large mass media campaigns are done now days Gothmog May 2015 #59

That doesn't matter ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #72

That is not lost on me Gothmog May 2015 #80

Yes, in the real world... Oilwellian May 2015 #109

Voter's should also be smart enough to realize .... raindaddy May 2015 #60

Hold on, are there some people arguing *against* taking clear positions? LondonReign2 May 2015 #64

sure, or rather they're defending not doing so. cali May 2015 #66

I'm starting to think you have... MaggieD May 2015 #73

please point out the strawman cali May 2015 #78

LOL - your posts always give me a laugh MaggieD May 2015 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author cali May 2015 #87

That's really condescending. Do you actually hear yourself? Ed Suspicious May 2015 #122

A far more effective tactic than screaming "strawman!!!!" jeff47 May 2015 #90

It's not a strawman LordGlenconner May 2015 #105

Come on, spill the beans. JEB May 2015 #74

Testify phantom power May 2015 #79

Well said MissDeeds May 2015 #83

Can you whittle that down to 140 characters so I can Tweet it? NYC_SKP May 2015 #91

A candidate should think through his/her position on the issues well JDPriestly May 2015 #96

Especially since she's had 35 years in the public eye to figure out where she stands XemaSab May 2015 #103

And Citizens should have the right to sue politicians nationalize the fed May 2015 #107

To me, this is why Obama's claim to "post-partisanship" was such audacious bullshit Maven May 2015 #110

absafuckinglutely! K&R! Phlem May 2015 #112

Here! Here! Now if everyone will pay attention......... n/t Paper Roses May 2015 #113

I voted for McGovern in my first murielm99 May 2015 #114

Who should you have voted for instead? Iggo May 2015 #121

Humprhrey, Muskie, or murielm99 May 2015 #125

Humphrey couldn't beat Nixon in '68 Art_from_Ark May 2015 #140

3 weeks since official announcement after years of planning, morningfog May 2015 #119

When you are only interested in a few issues it is easy to roll them out on the Thinkingabout May 2015 #129

Almost all of them have to wait until they know more about what their Donors think their Dustlawyer May 2015 #132

Well... Thespian2 May 2015 #133

word! n/t BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #134

If that's what you want from a presidential candidate, I suggest voting for a computer program. True Blue Door May 2015 #138

Ever read the platform of the RNC? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #139

I don't recall you demanding the same when Obama was running. SaveOurDemocracy May 2015 #142

You're right. fool me once.... cali May 2015 #149

Is the point of a post like that supposed to be that people have some obligation to keep merrily May 2015 #160

Its NOT asking too much. So frustrating. 7962 May 2015 #143

Democracy, that's where it's at. Lifelong Protester May 2015 #144

what if u give him a shift balenbalen May 2015 #147

She did. She saw the strong insurgency toward Bernie and immediately said silvershadow May 2015 #148

Yes, heaven forfend leaders should actually, you know, LEAD. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #154

Millennials? Not fundraisers and bundlers and lobbyists who were gays and or advocates for merrily May 2015 #161

No. Widespread changes in public opinion which track generationally. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #162

Public opinion changed that much between 2009 and May, 2012? merrily May 2015 #163

I'm not talking about when certain politicians decided it was okay to come out in favor. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #165

Boomers started these fights and pursued them for decades. Legalizaton of pot, equal rights for merrily May 2015 #166

And yet, the numbers don't lie. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #167

First, numbers don't read Obama's mind, either. We've been discussing why he acted, not merrily May 2015 #168

That poll is not an outlier, those results have been repeated many times over. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #173

Where did I say the poll was an outlier? merrily May 2015 #174

Ok Warren DeMontague May 2015 #175

When the Spin Masters of the MSM are in Control.... HoosierCowboy May 2015 #172

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #176

This deserves to stay at the top. nt woo me with science May 2015 #177

kick This is important. woo me with science May 2015 #178

Perfect OP cali. It sure as hell isn't "naive" to expect a candidate to do those things. Autumn May 2015 #179

+100000000000000 woo me with science May 2015 #181

Kick woo me with science May 2015 #180

Seems we're on the same side of this one. Barack_America May 2015 #182

hey, thanks. cali May 2015 #188

Kick. woo me with science May 2015 #183

We are in complete agreement. City Lights May 2015 #184