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fadedrose

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25. Michigan doesn't count

Sun May 3, 2015, 08:16 PM

May 2015

Our Governor & Senator decided to hold an early primary - in January, our regular primary was scheduled for August, I believe.

The DNC said that no votes from this primary were valid, and so maybe 6 democrats didn't put their names on the ballot. Only Hillary Clinton and another guy who would never win were on the Dem. ballot. I can't even think of his name. Also running was "other."

Hillary won because the others dropped out. BUT, when it came time for the convention, her supporters fought to have her votes in Michigan counted, and also wanted "others" to go to her. We squacked and DNC decided to divide the "others" ballots among the candidates who dropped out. It made Michigan pretty mad that Clinton wanted our votes who would never have been cast for "others" if DNC hadn't made the ruling that no votes would count since the primary itself was illegal. That's why Edwards, Biden, Obama, and others I can't remember got no votes. Those names were not on the ballot and the candidates didn't campaign much here because it was pointless.

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Which primaries Did Hillary Clinton Win in 2008? [View all] MineralMan May 2015 OP

Thanks for posting. I think she will build on these wins. hrmjustin May 2015 #1

I just shook my magic 8 ball GummyBearz May 2015 #41

Well mine said she will win in a landslide. hrmjustin May 2015 #42

I expect Hillary to take all she took in 2008 plus the South and most of the Midwest. leftofcool May 2015 #2

I'd be willing to wager that both Oregon and Washinton MineralMan May 2015 #4

We don't have primaries here in Washington. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #6

OK. How are national convention delegates chosen? MineralMan May 2015 #8

Party caucuses. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #10

Oregon also chose Obama and I think will go for Bernie this time. JEB May 2015 #64

"Most Obama voters from 2008 will vote for her . . " Major Hogwash May 2015 #47

Based on my long experience in observing presidential elections. MineralMan May 2015 #74

I'm in Minnesota, which voted for Obama in 2008. MineralMan May 2015 #3

I'm not at all sure WI will go to Clinton HereSince1628 May 2015 #30

You're sure Franken would endorse her? Ken Burch May 2015 #45

He already has DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #51

It'll be interesting to see if he reconsiders that Ken Burch May 2015 #53

It was far too early to endorse, in my opinion. morningfog May 2015 #59

He has already done so. MineralMan May 2015 #75

I live in Virginia I think she wins here gwheezie May 2015 #5

Thanks for your feedback. People who live in and who are active MineralMan May 2015 #7

I don't know about that. Lots of interest in Bernie in Virginia peacebird May 2015 #15

Is there? Do you have a link or something? MineralMan May 2015 #17

I'm in Communist Northern Virginia... SMC22307 May 2015 #60

CT went to Obama by 14,000 votes bigwillq May 2015 #9

I wonder how many of those Obama voters will vote for MineralMan May 2015 #11

Yes, Sanders is going to need those Obama voters bigwillq May 2015 #14

He can do that by reviving all the hopes the Obama Adminstration dampened. Ken Burch May 2015 #54

Not many Gothmog May 2015 #62

I imagine she will use the existing organization. MineralMan May 2015 #76

It's a ways out fredamae May 2015 #12

Florida and Michigan don't count Motown_Johnny May 2015 #13

+1 (though I still think she can win MI, if it comes down to it). demmiblue May 2015 #16

I dunno Motown_Johnny May 2015 #40

More Democrats voted for Hillary in FL than Republicans voted for McCain. Beacool May 2015 #18

Your unfair comparison betrays you Motown_Johnny May 2015 #39

Lived in FL from 70-012 DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #58

1.7 million people voted in Florida, an all time record in a Democratic Presidential Primary. StevieM May 2015 #48

Those delegates were seated. joshcryer May 2015 #66

Hillary won most large state primaries, except IL & NC, Beacool May 2015 #19

That's true. MineralMan May 2015 #20

More than Bernie Sanders will. wyldwolf May 2015 #21

That's certainly possible. MineralMan May 2015 #22

It's good to have hopes, goals and dreams. L0oniX May 2015 #24

Why don't you kick the Newsmax thread? You already rec'd it. wyldwolf May 2015 #27

If she got TX, CA, FL, and NY Aerows May 2015 #23

Here's the thing, though... MineralMan May 2015 #26

I don't know Aerows May 2015 #36

Michigan doesn't count fadedrose May 2015 #25

So, do you think Michigan will do that again? MineralMan May 2015 #28

Michigan wants a primary that is legal fadedrose May 2015 #35

Dem ballot for the 2008 MI primary: demmiblue May 2015 #43

I thought my ballot said "Other" fadedrose May 2015 #46

The primary wasn't "illegal." It simply wasn't one that the DNC rules were going to count. StevieM May 2015 #49

Minnesota, Wisconsin, Washington State, DC, Oregon geek tragedy May 2015 #29

Yes, I think so, too. MineralMan May 2015 #32

When's the last time MN went R? geek tragedy May 2015 #33

That's not the question. This is about Democratic MineralMan May 2015 #37

Careful about Colorado. sadoldgirl May 2015 #31

I'm not predicting any state but my own. MineralMan May 2015 #34

Hillary will win the black states that Obama won Dream Girl May 2015 #38

As a college student, Bernie Sanders marched on Washington. SMC22307 May 2015 #57

Unless Sanders makes immense inroads in the African American vote dsc May 2015 #44

She is beating Webb by 74 points in VA DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #50

I admit to be shocked by that dsc May 2015 #52

So was I but there are other polls confirming the trend... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #55

What about those who voted for Nader? nolabels May 2015 #56

What about the Democrats who voted for Bush? SMC22307 May 2015 #61

Who cares about them? They aren't Democrats. MineralMan May 2015 #67

Thanks for posting Gothmog May 2015 #63

A factor helping Hillary Clinton was the racist Democratic vote JonLP24 May 2015 #65

See, I'm only talking about the primary race in this thread. MineralMan May 2015 #68

They voted for Obama who at the time was very populist JonLP24 May 2015 #69

That was not the only reason they voted for him, frankly. MineralMan May 2015 #72

Obama certainly has talent public speaking JonLP24 May 2015 #73

Yeah, she did so well in the 'racist south'. nt B2G May 2015 #78

We can also think of this in the reverse. Who takes any of the gold states away from her? stevenleser May 2015 #70

Sanders may take Vermont, but that's not certain at all. MineralMan May 2015 #71

Pretty sure she will hold all from 2008. NCTraveler May 2015 #77