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cui bono

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3. Well, previous to the Scandinavian thread, yesterday, you said because Bernie is white and male
Sun May 3, 2015, 11:29 PM
May 2015

that he would govern for white males. You even called it "trickle down". I still don't understand what you were saying, here it is for context:

how is economic justice white and male?

it is addressing wallstreet/corporation.

that is middle class/upper middle class issues.

that is white and male

that is trickle down.


Why do you define economic justice as excluding minorities and women? And why then attribute that to Sanders by saying his campaign is only about economic justice? He's never defined it the way you do. What exactly do you mean by "it is addressing wallstreet/corporation". When you say that and say "trickle down" you are making it sound as if you think Bernie is going to help Wall Street and corporations. If you really believe that you really need to stop posting here and just go watch some videos of Bernie speaking. You clearly do not know what he stands for at all.

And you post this OP after I pm'd you links to my OPs about Bernie fighting for women's rights and civil rights. Did you watch the women's rights video? Because out of 37 recs your name's not there, so I guess you haven't watched it yet. Anyone who cares as much as you do about women's rights and is a self-proclaimed Bernie supporter would surely rec that.

This OP seems to be more about trying to make Sanders' supporters big ol' meanies than anything else. There were a lot of people who did not think you were saying what you seem to think you were saying. I can tell you that in a couple threads over the last couple days you have more than insinuated that Sanders either just does not care about racism and sexism or that he actively wants things to get worse on those fronts. I'm not the only on who took it that way based on the subthreads.

Honestly, I would give it a rest if I were you. If you are being sincere, go find out more info on Sanders. Go watch the women's rights video. Go read how he marched for civil rights in the 60's. And don't get mad, as you did in a pm, that it was decades ago. He hasn't stopped fighting for equality for all since then. Google it. You'll see. Just look it up. Then you won't have to have these exchanges that leave you frustrated and feeling that people are misunderstanding you and attacking you. You'll have the facts on your side and those facts will be that Bernie is a fighter for everyone on both economic and social issues.



social/economic justice [View all] seabeyond May 2015 OP
so many are aghast at my social justice statement in the Scandinavian thread. yet, no one is seabeyond May 2015 #1
Because you never answer when you are presented with facts BrotherIvan May 2015 #2
+10000000000000 Katashi_itto May 2015 #16
and here are the men, that i have yet to have a decent conversation with. seabeyond May 2015 #17
Prove me wrong. Start citing something remotely like facts. Katashi_itto May 2015 #18
you are not getting it. i am not here to prove shit to you. at all. ever. your voice seabeyond May 2015 #19
Thank you god!!!! Katashi_itto May 2015 #26
Wow. hifiguy May 2015 #36
"your voice is not part of the dialogue" NaturalHigh May 2015 #50
I am doing the same thing, I refuse to respond to the folks who I know on that page, if you will NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #51
What you're describing is monologue, not dialog. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #52
Seriously? BrotherIvan May 2015 #24
Exactly! Cognitive dissonance at it's best. Katashi_itto May 2015 #29
What about when women say it? cui bono May 2015 #41
There you go BrotherIvan May 2015 #42
No. It doesn't bolster what yr saying at all Violet_Crumble May 2015 #44
I'm also wondering how voting for wars and military involvement and bombings (by any politician) polly7 May 2015 #49
Well said, polly. I've wondered the same thing n/t Violet_Crumble May 2015 #53
Even when I am not here, it seems you drag me along in spirit. Bonobo May 2015 #47
You didn't answer my posts showing Bernie is fighting for social justice. "Weird that" cui bono May 2015 #43
Well, previous to the Scandinavian thread, yesterday, you said because Bernie is white and male cui bono May 2015 #3
Here's an OP I just read that shows how great Bernie is on LGBT rights. cui bono May 2015 #4
Economic and Social justice are like Siamese twins, one cannot exist without the other. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #5
Maybe you get flack from Bernie supporters because they feel you're wrong about him... cyberswede May 2015 #6
or maybe bernie sander supporters just need to take a breathe and reflect. seabeyond May 2015 #7
Well I don't think -nor have I said - that you think Bernie is racist or sexist cyberswede May 2015 #8
you have not cyberswede. others have. that is relevant in the post i made to you. lol seabeyond May 2015 #9
you have not even remotely supported him consistently. cali May 2015 #10
you are correct. i do not blindly follow you or others. i have my own thoughts. go figure. seabeyond May 2015 #11
I don't blame you one bit for posting about that idiotic graphic. And while you may have inferred at Number23 May 2015 #45
I think it was correct to call out that offensive graphic... bettyellen May 2015 #12
fine to call it out. not fine to phrase it so that the Sanders campaign cali May 2015 #13
Crickets. nt Bonobo May 2015 #48
About 'economic' and social issues Ichingcarpenter May 2015 #14
and i think it may be the exact opposite. i may be wrong. i am thinking about this. seabeyond May 2015 #15
Oligarchic Capitalism is the problem AgingAmerican May 2015 #23
Civil rights follow economic justice AgingAmerican May 2015 #20
this here is the argument that i have been having for the last month. people that have not followed seabeyond May 2015 #21
I remember that President Clinton's unoffical motto... NaturalHigh May 2015 #31
this is also what i am saying, sanders campaign is looking like. so when people say i am not seabeyond May 2015 #22
I think we have to both simultaneously or else the money won't be distributed fairly. bravenak May 2015 #27
Economic justice AgingAmerican May 2015 #46
I don't get people who thrive on negative attention BrotherIvan May 2015 #25
I don't get word salad or people who don't want to take the trouble to cali May 2015 #28
Ditto. NaturalHigh May 2015 #32
Or people who are so thunderingly ignorant of history hifiguy May 2015 #34
But yesterday and the day before the OPs assertions were vigorously refuted with FACTS BrotherIvan May 2015 #37
Facts mean no more to that one than they do to Sparklemoose Palin. nt hifiguy May 2015 #40
I don't get them either... NaturalHigh May 2015 #35
I'm a Clinton booster myself... NaturalHigh May 2015 #30
It wouldn't bug me if the op didn't claim to be supporting him cali May 2015 #33
That is odd, is it not? NaturalHigh May 2015 #38
It bugs me because in thread after thread, what was once thought to be a mistaken impression BrotherIvan May 2015 #39
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