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MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
63. Obama doesn't support gay marriage...
Tue May 8, 2012, 09:08 PM
May 2012

almost certainly for political reasons.

But still, very sad when the guy I will vote for puts his political strategy before the civil rights of others, and in all honesty, I don't see it as a good strategy anyways.

Kinda makes his speeches about other civil rights ring especially hollow and make him seem incredibly hypocritical.

You should post this on the WRAL site. I doubt many here are not supporting gay marriage. nt gateley May 2012 #1
I think you would be surprised. Kurska May 2012 #3
You're right -- I'd be very surprised, and undoubtedly very saddened. nt gateley May 2012 #5
yep. I'd be very surprised, dear. cali May 2012 #25
This comes up on DU every election cycle. After initial shock, I ceased being surprised in 2004. nt DRoseDARs May 2012 #39
oh, there were plenty on the other day... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #30
On the other hand, he may have garnered some pro-gay marriage voters who aren't gateley May 2012 #61
Then you would be wrong dbackjon May 2012 #101
Why not send a letter to a newspaper in North Carolina? HereSince1628 May 2012 #2
You're preaching to the choir here. AlbertCat May 2012 #106
Maybe, although I think not on DU. HereSince1628 May 2012 #109
If they had posted it in Religion forum... froster May 2012 #169
why post this here quinnox May 2012 #4
We should all be furious Kurska May 2012 #6
whatever, so you decided to post an angry rant against duers quinnox May 2012 #8
Any Duer that doesn't support gay marriage is my enemy. Kurska May 2012 #9
I love how you think your generation is full of enlightenment quinnox May 2012 #11
My generation is overwhelmingly infavor of it, but I have even more respect for older folks on the Kurska May 2012 #13
"My generation is overwhelmingly infavor of it" ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #23
Please reference this Kurska May 2012 #29
Young people in the sixties were overwhelmingly against war, then they grew up and voted GOP. Dawgs May 2012 #76
But the bigger picture is more important WinniSkipper May 2012 #131
Right... don't argue with Baby Boomers. froster May 2012 #172
Not arrogant at all WinniSkipper May 2012 #185
That's all well and good pintobean May 2012 #200
Statistically speaking, we're more in favor of it than other age groups Hippo_Tron May 2012 #191
As I said, the good news is the ones against it don't vote ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #192
While more younger people are for it..... musical_soul May 2012 #53
My parents were born in the late 1900s Rozlee May 2012 #78
I agree. We should be more angry. OriginalGeek May 2012 #14
Absolutely. Kurska May 2012 #16
+1. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #31
Hell yeah! Right there with ya, friend. nt froster May 2012 #173
it wasn't directed at DU'ers it was a righteous rant directed at bigots maddezmom May 2012 #89
Really? dbackjon May 2012 #102
I am extremely furious. musical_soul May 2012 #52
+1 HotRodTuna May 2012 #117
Or maybe the younger generation is sick of appeasers and know-it-alls. nt froster May 2012 #175
They better get used to dealing with them HotRodTuna May 2012 #184
Youth does tend to bring that LanternWaste May 2012 #198
Not sure we should care much about the feelings of the people the OP's referring to. (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #12
this kind of OP isn't exactly going to win them over quinnox May 2012 #17
I'm sick of coddling the feelings of bigots. Kurska May 2012 #20
I agree. And we have no national leaders to lead the charge of the public shaming of bigots. Luminous Animal May 2012 #22
Thank you for that moment of clarity. Duncan Grant May 2012 #68
At this point most of them aren't going to be won over anyway Posteritatis May 2012 #27
So, it's safe to assume NorthCarolina May 2012 #28
kinda picked up on that vibe myself frylock May 2012 #45
this seems to have really struck a chord frylock May 2012 #44
And what would this "honey" strategy of yours look like? Duncan Grant May 2012 #65
Fuck them all. They can't be won over with honey. But, they will eventually die out. morningfog May 2012 #71
Bullshit dbackjon May 2012 #103
I'm so sick of that pansy-ass line it makes me wanna puke every time I see a DUer spew it. nt froster May 2012 #176
How many times have you seen it in your 90 minutes of membership? cyberswede May 2012 #177
Aren't you observant? And wouldn't you like to know? ;-) nt froster May 2012 #179
Name one. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #95
keep reading downthread and you'll fine one n/t maddezmom May 2012 #110
Why not post it here? noamnety May 2012 #57
+!!! nt froster May 2012 #178
There are lots of rightwing bigots lurking here. Arugula Latte May 2012 #67
Not just here. Renew Deal May 2012 #80
Thanks for outing yourself RetroLounge May 2012 #70
. fascisthunter May 2012 #86
People have a right to be angry Renew Deal May 2012 #79
Board nannies rule. WilliamPitt May 2012 #84
off-putting to who? fascisthunter May 2012 #85
Anonymous preaching to an anonymous choir is a low risk activity. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #94
Exactly. But responding with anything but total agreement is not. HotRodTuna May 2012 #119
Hey, HotShot! If you have a problem with LGBTQ rights, say it. n/t TriMera May 2012 #124
LOL maddezmom May 2012 #125
Yeah why would someone post this on our Brony fansite?? progressoid May 2012 #105
That image is hilarious. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #159
My hero! nt froster May 2012 #180
Your concern is noted. n/t racaulk May 2012 #129
Yeah OP, how dare you? froster May 2012 #171
Hopefully sooner than later. Great Caesars Ghost May 2012 #7
Are you saying everyone who doesn't support gay marriage is...old? Not sure what you mean, though I uppityperson May 2012 #10
I'm just referencing the demographics of the situation. Kurska May 2012 #15
Thanks for clarifying for me. That would be wonderful and I do think things are changing overall. uppityperson May 2012 #62
"like I said upthread it is hard to break with peers on issues like this." WinniSkipper May 2012 #139
Obsolete's probably a better term. Posteritatis May 2012 #18
I don't think what the OP is saying is completely off base. Butterbean May 2012 #21
OP is saying that more older people are against it than younger people. Bladian May 2012 #50
The things they do look awful c-c-c-cold.. Fumesucker May 2012 #19
But bigots are a smaller percentage of younger generations abelenkpe May 2012 #111
I suspect that the OP will be as disillusioned with his own generation at my age as I am with my own Fumesucker May 2012 #193
good, but a much better phrase is marriage equality. cali May 2012 #24
Yes, but the older generations definitely spew more hate and bigotry, my dear. Cali_Democrat May 2012 #33
probably, sweetie, but that doesn't mean that young people are cali May 2012 #38
Of course I remember that, honey, but please see recent polls on marriage equality: Cali_Democrat May 2012 #40
uh, prejudice against GLBT folks isn't the only prejudice honeypie. cali May 2012 #48
I know prejudice against GLBT folks isn't the only prejudice Cali_Democrat May 2012 #49
honey, sweetheart, honeypie...are you two married? HotRodTuna May 2012 #153
Hit too close to home? MNBrewer May 2012 #54
Who on DU does not support gay marirage? JoePhilly May 2012 #26
"focus your anger at those who deserve it" NorthCarolina May 2012 #32
Yes, and again ... who on DU does not support gay marriage? JoePhilly May 2012 #69
This is part of an ongoing trend on DU. It's sad. Dawgs May 2012 #77
Well, if you are a supporter, then obviously this NorthCarolina May 2012 #81
There may be, but I have not seen anyone post that they are against gay marriage. JoePhilly May 2012 #114
Here you go! NorthCarolina May 2012 #174
Nicely done, NorthCarolina. That's called, "Ouch!" nt froster May 2012 #181
Actually it's called "that poster is no longer with us because they are a bigot"...but then neither ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #182
Not Directly dbackjon May 2012 #104
I guess I'd respond this way ... JoePhilly May 2012 #130
they are here CreekDog May 2012 #186
There's a realpolitik contingent here that would rather defer their support until "later." Posteritatis May 2012 #43
And of course Bohunk68 May 2012 #112
Of *course* I want a unicorn. I mean, duh. Posteritatis May 2012 #170
Young people are our hope for the future. nclib May 2012 #34
Minor nitpick eridani May 2012 #35
Right on. sarcasmo May 2012 #36
You won't get many (any?) to respond directly to your message as DU automatically bans kelly1mm May 2012 #37
Why "disguised as faith"? eallen May 2012 #41
You can tell the difference by their actions jeff47 May 2012 #97
Every faith interprets its scripture as it wants eallen May 2012 #197
There really isn't any room for interpretation here. jeff47 May 2012 #199
There's always interpretation. Faith picks and chooses scripture. eallen May 2012 #202
Thanks, Kurska. You and most of the kids totally rock. Zorra May 2012 #42
LOL redqueen May 2012 #46
relatively old f*** here Skittles May 2012 #47
Me too! Lifelong Protester May 2012 #92
I'm still hoping and praying for a miracle. musical_soul May 2012 #51
Im from N.C., and I am appalled this is up for a vote. mwdem May 2012 #55
As went Gov. Wallace... so too will go anti-gay bigots. +1 Fearless May 2012 #56
Spend your time where it matters. Logical May 2012 #58
Someone on here posted earlier that minority voters tend to oppose same-sex marriage. Jamaal510 May 2012 #59
Why on EARTH would you believe that "statistic?" It's FALSE. You should KNOW that, as a black man. DevonRex May 2012 #73
That sounds like something feasible for the RW media to do--divide and conquer. Jamaal510 May 2012 #74
That's right. DevonRex May 2012 #75
I just learned that the N.C. amendment is even worse than I thought. pnwmom May 2012 #60
Unfortunately, many NC voters were in the same boat. jeff47 May 2012 #98
Obama doesn't support gay marriage... MellowDem May 2012 #63
I truly believe that fruitsmoothie45 May 2012 #93
Oh yeah? I heard that he does. pnwmom May 2012 #189
Haha, touche! MellowDem May 2012 #196
That is a grave that will take many hands to dig varelse May 2012 #64
Yep. Most of you anti-gay folks are older and will DIE OUT. Arugula Latte May 2012 #66
Here ya go Fla_Democrat May 2012 #72
! KG May 2012 #82
That was a heartwarming diatribe HotRodTuna May 2012 #83
yeah, well, that wasn't why it was posted, so.... fascisthunter May 2012 #88
yeah, lets worry about all the poor bigots reading DU maddezmom May 2012 #90
Well, it was posted on DU to DU readers HotRodTuna May 2012 #115
I'm not concerned about stealth trolls or bigots that read DU and are offended maddezmom May 2012 #116
Sometimes we get tired of hearing we have to handle this fight a certain way justiceischeap May 2012 #118
^^This^^ n/t TriMera May 2012 #123
Hey, guess what, fellow DU member? Morning Dew May 2012 #122
Guess what, my post was in regard to the hateful tone HotRodTuna May 2012 #155
so do you support marriage equality? maddezmom May 2012 #158
Sorry, I thought you asked "Do you think every single member of DU supports gay marriage?" Morning Dew May 2012 #162
If they want to abide by TOS, they will keep it to themselves. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #168
Hit a nerve? ...nt TeeYiYi May 2012 #91
Amen. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #87
Gay Marriage will never happen shagsak May 2012 #96
We tried "separate but equal" once. It didn't go so well. jeff47 May 2012 #100
You are partially right shagsak May 2012 #128
What you are proposing is not compromise. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #134
Marriage is not a religious word jeff47 May 2012 #151
You do understand that there is more at stake here from a legal perspective, no? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #120
Absolutely shagsak May 2012 #133
Gay marriage will never happen... with attitudes like yours justiceischeap May 2012 #121
attitudes like mine? shagsak May 2012 #132
So we should just let them continue on in their bigotry? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #135
You don't get to define marriage, period. TriMera May 2012 #136
There you go again. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #141
I know, maybe someday I'll learn. TriMera May 2012 #144
You may very well have a progressive stance based on YOUR religious leanings justiceischeap May 2012 #150
Marriage precedes Christianity (by a very long time) and separate but equal never works. LeftyMom May 2012 #127
I'm reading just the opposite Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #137
No shagsak May 2012 #138
Pro equality? No you aren't. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #140
Marriage is not a religious institution. That's why it's culturally universal in one form or another LeftyMom May 2012 #142
Well, great then! shagsak May 2012 #143
Religious Liberals from New Jersey who support marriage equality: JackBeck May 2012 #145
What's up is a separation of church and state. TriMera May 2012 #147
I know there are - I are one. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #148
Stop blaming bigotry on your invisible friend. LeftyMom May 2012 #149
Not a Bigot, Not a Homophobe shagsak May 2012 #152
Recognizing other people's rights isn't persecuting you. Nobody's going to make you marry a dude. LeftyMom May 2012 #154
Maybe you shouldn't mock his "invisible friend" HotRodTuna May 2012 #156
Homophobia is very offensive to decent people. LeftyMom May 2012 #190
Gee, thats a relief. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #160
Please explain how permitting people to marry persecutes you. (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #188
Marriage is NOT solely religious. Married atheist couples are still married. Zhade May 2012 #201
A co-worker of mine just lost his "companion" of 28 years blueamy66 May 2012 #99
When my partner Bohunk68 May 2012 #113
I wish that I could change things..... blueamy66 May 2012 #194
People tend to be selective when applying the term "bigot". The Link May 2012 #107
Well, check the news today. He just owned up. HotRodTuna May 2012 #157
"owned up"? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #161
Yes, he's been very cagey about his stance HotRodTuna May 2012 #164
I have seen enough. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #166
Ok...not sure what that's supposed to mean HotRodTuna May 2012 #183
owned up? kind of an odd phrase for supporting marriage maddezmom May 2012 #163
Considering that most people assumed he was for it HotRodTuna May 2012 #165
so do you support marriage equality? n/t maddezmom May 2012 #167
And younger generations will only remember them with shame. Nt abelenkpe May 2012 #108
I am so thankful your generation is more tolerant Rex May 2012 #126
Thank you - you give me hope for the future lovemydog May 2012 #146
those people are backward thinking Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #187
I don't think that age totally defines this issue - lynne May 2012 #195
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