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In reply to the discussion: If one needed proof that the anti-Muhammed exhibition was intentional provocation.... [View all]Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)31. This thread is illuminating from several of the responses, I think so too, considering the reality:
Muslims Defend Pam Gellers Right to Hate
Both before Pam Gellers Draw Muhammad event and after the attack Sunday night, Muslim-American leaders vigorously defended her right to draw whatever she wants.
Anti-Muslim advocate Pam Geller has the absolute right to draw any cartoon she wants of the Prophet Muhammad. That was not just the response from Muslim-American leaders I spoke to after news broke Sunday night of a shooting outside a Garland, Texas, event that Geller had organizedoffering $10,000 for people to draw images of Muhammadbut before that event as well.
As of the writing of this article, we know that after the conclusion of Gellers event, two gunmen drove into the parking lot of the venue and fired shots that wounded one security officer. The two suspects were then reportedly killed by the police officers outside the venue. The identity and motivation of the gunmen is still not known as of press time.
Now dont get me wrong, Im not saying that some Muslims arent offended by the idea of Geller offering $10,000 for people to draw despicable cartoons of Muhammad. But the reality is American Muslims deeply value freedom of expression.
Plus, to be blunt, we are used to Geller, a person who has been denounced by both the Anti-Defamation league and the Southern Poverty Law Center for her anti-Muslim hate. She has been demonizing us Muslims for years. Geller is so over-the-top in her rabid hatred of Muslims that she has become a punchline in our community.
In fact, in the weeks leading up to her contest, the response by Muslim community has been a mix of ignoring her and comically mocking her.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/04/muslims-defend-pam-geller-s-right-to-hate.html
Both before Pam Gellers Draw Muhammad event and after the attack Sunday night, Muslim-American leaders vigorously defended her right to draw whatever she wants.
Anti-Muslim advocate Pam Geller has the absolute right to draw any cartoon she wants of the Prophet Muhammad. That was not just the response from Muslim-American leaders I spoke to after news broke Sunday night of a shooting outside a Garland, Texas, event that Geller had organizedoffering $10,000 for people to draw images of Muhammadbut before that event as well.
As of the writing of this article, we know that after the conclusion of Gellers event, two gunmen drove into the parking lot of the venue and fired shots that wounded one security officer. The two suspects were then reportedly killed by the police officers outside the venue. The identity and motivation of the gunmen is still not known as of press time.
Now dont get me wrong, Im not saying that some Muslims arent offended by the idea of Geller offering $10,000 for people to draw despicable cartoons of Muhammad. But the reality is American Muslims deeply value freedom of expression.
Plus, to be blunt, we are used to Geller, a person who has been denounced by both the Anti-Defamation league and the Southern Poverty Law Center for her anti-Muslim hate. She has been demonizing us Muslims for years. Geller is so over-the-top in her rabid hatred of Muslims that she has become a punchline in our community.
In fact, in the weeks leading up to her contest, the response by Muslim community has been a mix of ignoring her and comically mocking her.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/04/muslims-defend-pam-geller-s-right-to-hate.html
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If one needed proof that the anti-Muhammed exhibition was intentional provocation.... [View all]
RandySF
May 2015
OP
She is a reverse Stochastic terrorist the person who is responsible for the incitement.
Katashi_itto
May 2015
#61
It does not matter. You either believe in the constitution and the first amendment or you don't
CBGLuthier
May 2015
#2
There's a hell of a lot about the world that is 'not as it should be'.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
May 2015
#77
"she can't even pretend she was unaware of the danger in which she was placing those cartoonists"
EX500rider
May 2015
#96
You got it right. Who and why the event came to be is not relevant. Free speech is.
on point
May 2015
#30
You can believe in the Constitution and yet decide something is still to offensive to do
treestar
May 2015
#39
If you can't say/draw something without fear of being physically attacked, you aren't free to say it
NutmegYankee
May 2015
#48
No, it's not nearly as black and white as that. All of the Bill of Rights amendments have limits and
stevenleser
May 2015
#58
And of course you mischaracterize my argument. Of course, because you cant attack the real one.
stevenleser
May 2015
#60
This thread is illuminating from several of the responses, I think so too, considering the reality:
Jefferson23
May 2015
#31
So, RandySF, riddle me this. If preachers, Popes, Imams and their followers provoke LGBT people with
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#42
No, it's not. It's a question you are afraid of. So skip the last one and address the rest.
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#70
it seems to me anyone who believes in free speech is being taunted by the jihadees.
samsingh
May 2015
#64
This whole argument is right up there with: "her skirt was too short:intentional provocation"
EX500rider
May 2015
#102