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In reply to the discussion: Taking a radical right-wing position on the part of an outgroup is not "liberalism." [View all]True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)58. What's that childhood game where you just randomly insert words into sentences?
You seem to be playing that game, only you're inserting an entire alternate universe into a conversation.
The point is, you want them silenced. I'm puzzled how this jives with your proclaimed fierce support of freedom of speech.
If Vladimir Putin wants to spread his psychotic views he can write a damn book like Hitler did, not hijack the whole damn internet with armies of paid trolls flooding fake comments to spew lies 24/7 like the bastard love child of the Ministry of Truth and Nyarlathotep. That's a far bigger danger to freedom than the long odds you'll accidentally happen upon one of the five actual liberals in the world who support Putin and make them feel unwelcome.
if often seems as if many DU'ers only suddenly become concerned with and hypoeractively supportive of "free speech" when it's specifically hate speech against Muslims
I see nothing of the sort, and furthermore, seeing resistance to terrorism as an attack on Muslims is some pretty nasty crypto-bigotry. Is that how you see them - in the acts of the radicals who bully and tyrannize them? That's like going into a cancer ward and not being able to distinguish the patients from their tumors. No wonder you think supporting Vladimir Putin is a real thing.
I mean you know, journalists are being corralled in Baltimore, and beaten by police if they dare leave the bullpen... Whistleblowers face prosecution from corporations and the government
And you have the ability to post your own threads about those subjects and every other deliberate distraction you can namedrop, but instead you're here trying to stop others from talking about people being murdered for "offending Islam." That, and the psychopathic rationalizations of same, is the subject of this thread.
You know, just like i didn't excuse the shooters, or "blame america first' or any of hte other cockamamie stuff you've imagined thus far.
So your very first post here wasn't to dismiss the entire subject by noting the lack of civilian deaths in Texas, even though the OP doesn't directly mention the recent incident? Your very next post after that wasn't a laundry list of "Yeahbut" accusations against the United States that you apparently felt somehow meant we shouldn't be discussing this subject? You haven't spent the whole time obsessively trying to change the subject and demonizing everyone who won't play your game?
Well, for starters, we're talking about Garland, Texas.
You are talking about Garland, Texas. The OP is talking about people being murdered for "insulting Islam," which happens all over the world, and the demented perverts who respond to those incidents by blaming the victims.
And for some apparently compelling reason, you don't want anyone talking about that - so desperately, in fact, that instead of just posting new threads about all those other issues you say we should talk about instead, you're still here, trying to drown out the subject with an endless spew of evasions and lies.
Second, my criticism is that you, like so many others, are going to be vastly more outraged...
Yeahbut, yeahbut, yeahbut...more evasions, subject changes, and lies. The subject is still the moral perversion of people who blame the victims of Islamic terrorist attacks.
You just got done howling about the evils of Muslim nations, you know.
You mean, stating the fact that Muslims are oppressed by the people you don't want me criticizing, and advocating for their religious freedom - which apparently also infuriates you? Yeah, I just got done doing my job as a liberal in a discussion on a liberal website, and you're doing the exact opposite. So that raises a deeper question: Why do you post on DU if you despise the people here, and the values we represent? Why do you even think it appropriate to do so?
And due to the overwhelming amount of islamophobia on DU
If people tripping all over themselves to be inclusive, and drowning everything they say on the subject in caveats and Sensitivity Training language to avoid giving offense to anyone who isn't determined to find it...if that is "overwhelming Islamophobia" in your eyes, the problem is yours. If you see "overwhelming Islamophobia" among a bunch of left-wing liberals, your views are beyond extreme. And the question remains why you think it appropriate to participate in a forum whose population you demonize as corrupt bigots.
or i could keep expressing my freedom of speech to inform you that i find your wild-eyed, pulpit-pounding nonsense to be fairly loathsome and irritating.
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Taking a radical right-wing position on the part of an outgroup is not "liberalism." [View all]
True Blue Door
May 2015
OP
Tolerance and sympathy for religious madmen is acceptable because... police brutality?
Kurska
May 2015
#22
I would usually view attempted murder as a more serious offense than disagreeing with me.
Kurska
May 2015
#74
A "yeahbut" is what happens when bigotry is confronted by inconvenient reality.
True Blue Door
May 2015
#44
This is all projection, repeated immediately after I just said the same things to YOU:
True Blue Door
May 2015
#51
What's that childhood game where you just randomly insert words into sentences?
True Blue Door
May 2015
#58
I do not think a calf wound is worthy of an existential "clash of civilizations" rant.
Scootaloo
May 2015
#32
Thank you. It is also not "liberalism" to accept misogyny in certain other foreign cultures
pnwmom
May 2015
#9
It's even more odd that our Government, which speaks for us, has so many allies whose cultures
sabrina 1
May 2015
#15
The Christians who did that were WRONG and that doesn't excuse the people who do it now.
pnwmom
May 2015
#14
We will. The world will be completely off of fossil fuels by mid-century.
True Blue Door
May 2015
#67
Would you be okay with the same thing "Not hurting Christians by insulting Jesus"
Kurska
May 2015
#65
++ thread. There is no excuse for physical attacks on people criticizing an ideology.
Yorktown
May 2015
#78