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Sheepshank

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153. Are you really trying to imply the HRS can act independently from POTUS?
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:01 PM
May 2015

that she can run amok and make up any rule and follow any policy she damn well feels like?

Ok, at this point you are simply playing games trying to diverty the intent of my post, which is that she is responsible for following the desires and policies of her boss.

I can't imagine that you find this concept hard to understand. Clearly its willfull ignorance on your part simply to promote an agenda of finding something with which to slam HRC. I suggest you persue another track, because this one is wrong, worn out and simply doesn' hold any water.

IMO books like that are written in preparation for running for office. djean111 May 2015 #1
Actually she voted against CAFTA as a senator MaggieD May 2015 #3
As far as I can tell, currency manipulation is NOT addressed in the TPP. djean111 May 2015 #7
Actually it is MaggieD May 2015 #8
No, some politicians and economists think it should be, but right now - not in it. djean111 May 2015 #10
It's in there - the debate is how enforceable it is MaggieD May 2015 #13
Chuck Schumer said on MSNBC that TPP could not stop it. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #23
Stop the TPP totally, or US involvement? MaggieD May 2015 #25
TPP would not stop currency manipulation. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #29
No, it is not in there. You are simply flat-out wrong. Jim Lane May 2015 #40
It is a main thrust of the negotiations MaggieD May 2015 #44
Do you even read the stuff you post? You're completely wrong. Jim Lane May 2015 #54
Again, it is a FOCUS of the US negotiations MaggieD May 2015 #58
I'm going to put this simply, just for you. cali May 2015 #62
I think you have finally answered your own question! MaggieD May 2015 #63
The administration has recently admitted that it won't be part of the agreement cali May 2015 #67
"some people say" MaggieD May 2015 #71
You quote people who are NOT conducting the negotiations. Jim Lane May 2015 #70
We CAN'T push for anything, that is the problem, far more of a problem than what is in it or not, is sabrina 1 May 2015 #120
This has to be the most hilarious Aerows May 2015 #126
you are desperate cali May 2015 #59
It is part of the negotiations MaggieD May 2015 #61
one straw man after another. cali May 2015 #74
I'm not your honey MaggieD May 2015 #77
And you most certainly Aerows May 2015 #146
So far only 13 Democrats in the Senate Caretha May 2015 #109
It's in the House that only 13 dems have come out in support of the tpa cali May 2015 #121
Thank you for the correction Caretha May 2015 #125
So much bullshit .... Sheepshank May 2015 #14
I am not in the least bit desperate. djean111 May 2015 #20
We all have jobs that are answerable upline.....unless we are the CEO/owner/President Sheepshank May 2015 #24
Yeah, Hillary is a working stiff... Fumesucker May 2015 #122
Hillary did the right thing with the Server, Obama's emails have been hacked into! lewebley3 May 2015 #152
Are you really trying to imply the HRS can act independently from POTUS? Sheepshank May 2015 #153
Exactly - what an absurd thing to think MaggieD May 2015 #26
I like it when Democratic politicians listen to the voters. pnwmom May 2015 #76
"How we gonna run reform when we're the damn incumbent?!" Marr May 2015 #2
I guess when you can't debate an issue.... MaggieD May 2015 #4
Your premise is too absurd to 'debate'. Marr May 2015 #6
It's actually not absurd at all - it is factual MaggieD May 2015 #11
Uh... the "we don't know what's in it" BS is one of the TPP *defenders'* lines. Marr May 2015 #16
Try again - LOL! MaggieD May 2015 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author bvar22 May 2015 #37
k&r... spanone May 2015 #5
MaggieD, are you trying to bust bubbles? Thinkingabout May 2015 #9
I posted that yesterday cali May 2015 #15
No, that is the exact opposite of leadership MaggieD May 2015 #18
and up is down and red is blue. bullshit of the kind Orwell hated. cali May 2015 #38
It seems like you have never been in a leadership role MaggieD May 2015 #41
seems like you are posting more bullshit about something you can't possibly know cali May 2015 #69
I posted that exerpt from the article yesterday, dear. cali May 2015 #12
LOL - I will bet you didn't post that excerpt MaggieD May 2015 #17
bwahaha. Not to swift of you, darlin'. Have a heaping helping of yummy crow! cali May 2015 #30
Allow me to quote your post: MaggieD May 2015 #32
bwahahahaha. I am so loving this. cali May 2015 #35
Well, you think leadership is stamping your feet and yelling NO! MaggieD May 2015 #47
I remain unconvinced that you and thinking are on so much as nodding terms, Maggie cali May 2015 #88
Actually, it is secret. Snippets have been released? But it's Exilednight May 2015 #111
K&R! hrmjustin May 2015 #19
The record reads otherwise. AtomicKitten May 2015 #22
So says the right wing media MaggieD May 2015 #27
This is, frankly, more bullshit from you. Jim Lane May 2015 #33
Swoon. Jim, I think I love you. cali May 2015 #36
But you are great at calling people you disagree with a liar! MaggieD May 2015 #48
no, I am fairly good at calling bullshit, bullshit, however cali May 2015 #49
Oops, there you go again, popping off too soon MaggieD May 2015 #56
You should have actually read it..... MaggieD May 2015 #51
Nice to see you're finally (albeit implicitly) conceding the "gold standard" quotation. Jim Lane May 2015 #66
You're just embarrassing yourself. cali May 2015 #73
Thank you for your informed and informative posts deutsey May 2015 #134
Excellent response, Jim Lane Aerows May 2015 #141
Then she should have IMMEDIATELY said when entering the race that she is against Fast Track... cascadiance May 2015 #28
Why? MaggieD May 2015 #31
She won't be criticizing The President. bvar22 May 2015 #39
Let's face it... MaggieD May 2015 #46
Boy, you loaded more Buzz Words into one sentence that I've seen before. bvar22 May 2015 #57
As usual, bvar22, you get right to the heart of it Aerows May 2015 #143
That is bullshit. She doesn't have to criticize the President. It's about policy not personalities cali May 2015 #42
No-o-o.... She could criticize the REPUBLICANS who support this piece of crap! cascadiance May 2015 #64
In your own words, it's a form of leadership and she Exilednight May 2015 #113
It's a form of leadership to bash... MaggieD May 2015 #114
What world is that .... Russia? The reason we have a Exilednight May 2015 #117
and where is she on the issue this month? Motown_Johnny May 2015 #34
Too soon to say. Focus groups still being assembled and polled. (n/t) Jim Lane May 2015 #43
Same place she has been for over a decade MaggieD May 2015 #45
as I said, you're a champ when it comes to slinging it. cali May 2015 #50
And you're a champ when it comes to showing... MaggieD May 2015 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Marr May 2015 #68
Seriously? This has to be sarcasm.... right? Motown_Johnny May 2015 #75
Don't confuse me with the facts still_one May 2015 #52
Yeah, who was the Secretary of State who was negotiating the TPP from 2009 to 2013? jeff47 May 2015 #55
Poor Hillary-- such an outsider. Marr May 2015 #72
Posting positive news about Hillary. For shame! hrmjustin May 2015 #60
the problem is not that it's positive- I posted it yesterday- cali May 2015 #65
wow! so now it's OK for HRC supporters to criticize TPP? delrem May 2015 #78
the op is an amazing example of revisionist history. cali May 2015 #79
"evolving" the HRC campaign talking points "to the left" requires a lot of revisionism. delrem May 2015 #80
So am I reading this thread correctly? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #81
no, you are not and she has not cali May 2015 #82
This ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #94
She could announce she personally found a cure for cancer MaggieD May 2015 #83
your favorite substance really is straw cali May 2015 #84
Come on - admit it MaggieD May 2015 #87
ya, you read it right. kinda like we are keeping all this honest.... nt seabeyond May 2015 #86
complete fail. cali May 2015 #89
Way to semi-quote half a sentence MaggieD May 2015 #92
The part you're leaving out is what she did between 2009 and 2013. jeff47 May 2015 #101
No. I think that's covered here ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #103
No, actually it isn't covered there. jeff47 May 2015 #104
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #105
If that were true, saying she couldn't get them in the negotiations jeff47 May 2015 #106
Okay. 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #110
Notice that your defense of Hillary is completely inconsistent with the OP's defense of Hillary. Jim Lane May 2015 #118
Great post, you should put that up as an OP, I'd K&R it... Fumesucker May 2015 #123
I agree Ichingcarpenter May 2015 #133
Don't the three positions reflect three different points in time? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #135
Unlike her vote on the Iraq War Resolution, she has not said she made a mistake. Jim Lane May 2015 #136
Yep, they don't want her to have been "right" treestar May 2015 #128
yes, you are Enrique May 2015 #132
From the words from the book (excerpted) ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #137
I agree Enrique May 2015 #138
Is this like "I voted against it before I voted for it"? GummyBearz May 2015 #85
You realize she voted against CAFTA - right? MaggieD May 2015 #90
No. More like ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #96
Exactly - some people call that.... MaggieD May 2015 #98
Nope ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #100
She was also a Democrat before it became optional. nt ucrdem May 2015 #91
Bernie is still not a democrat cali May 2015 #93
Seems he can't make up his mind MaggieD May 2015 #95
Yes we noticed. ucrdem May 2015 #108
rec PowerToThePeople May 2015 #112
Well, nothing has changed. But, if that's all ya got.... morningfog May 2015 #116
War is Peace! woo me with science May 2015 #97
Is that what you call these links? MaggieD May 2015 #99
Catch-22... woo me with science May 2015 #102
That looks like an argument for tpp betterdemsonly May 2015 #107
So her criticism of the TPP was to support an aspect of it? morningfog May 2015 #115
One of the most Orwellian posts ever seen on DU cali May 2015 #124
I know, I have to laugh at that Aerows May 2015 #142
President Obama on free trade Jesus Malverde May 2015 #119
All the denial is hilarious treestar May 2015 #127
there's no denial. And if you can respond to one of Jim Lane's cali May 2015 #130
Can you explain something for me? cyberswede May 2015 #131
Explanation: This is a mix of Clinton quotation and someone else's commentary Jim Lane May 2015 #147
Thank you! cyberswede May 2015 #148
Why does she not speak out now against the TPP? peacebird May 2015 #129
Already covered in the thread MaggieD May 2015 #140
no good reasons. some in this thread claim she'd be attacking the president cali May 2015 #144
By the way, I have been posting criticism of the TPP here since 2013, so "almost a year ago" djean111 May 2015 #139
I wholeheartedly disagree Aerows May 2015 #145
kick cali May 2015 #149
DU rec...nt SidDithers May 2015 #150
You need to send this to Sanders followers, the are telling lies about Hillary on TPP!! lewebley3 May 2015 #151
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