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30. They share no responsibility except in the vaguest moral sense

Mon May 4, 2015, 04:51 PM

May 2015

Which is a weird position to take if you are somehow trying to undercut the moral responsibility of the religious fanatics who responded violently.

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So what if a horrible, racist, ultra-right-wing woman were raped? [View all] Goblinmonger May 2015 OP

Hypocrisy on DU? Surely not... N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2015 #1

I know. Color me shocked. Goblinmonger May 2015 #4

Most of the clocks here are stopped at roughly the right time. Don't mistake that for ticking. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2015 #7

What a great line! You're absolutely right. (n/t) Jim Lane May 2015 #50

Okay shenmue May 2015 #2

When you're right, you're right tkmorris May 2015 #3

Thanks. I'll admit I'm not always right. Goblinmonger May 2015 #5

Rape isn't something you invite...regardless of what r/wers would have you believe. Cerridwen May 2015 #6

Getting shot at because you are drawing cartoon, though. Goblinmonger May 2015 #11

What are you replying to? Cerridwen May 2015 #70

The equivalency is that there are no non-violent offensive actions that justify a violent reaction. PeaceNikki May 2015 #12

Great post SickOfTheOnePct May 2015 #35

Excellent post. hifiguy May 2015 #44

+1. 'These are grown sentient thinking human beings.' And there are better choices than killing. n/t freshwest May 2015 #59

Can you stop being sensible? :-) REP May 2015 #69

Same question for you. Cerridwen May 2015 #71

The analogy I saw was this- snooper2 May 2015 #8

there was little chance of her getting attacked... lame54 May 2015 #9

Can we address how insane it is that ANYONE was at risk for being attacked? theboss May 2015 #24

Then everyone would want the rapist arrested, just like everyone wanted the shooters arrested. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #10

She successfully baited the lowest common denominators-- which is not blaming anyone. LanternWaste May 2015 #13

Seems like it is excusing them. Goblinmonger May 2015 #14

Do you feel the same way about that preacher that went to Dearborn Mi to burn the Koran? nt Snotcicles May 2015 #15

Yup. He has freedom of speech for that, too. Goblinmonger May 2015 #16

So you don't think a Florida Preacher traveling to the most Snotcicles May 2015 #19

It's still protected. Goblinmonger May 2015 #22

No my point was you were equating "baiting" to "a women wearing slutty clothes". Snotcicles May 2015 #28

it is unbelievable they cannot see the difference Skittles May 2015 #72

Of course it was baiting. And my response is, So what? theboss May 2015 #26

Sure it was provoking... So what? Oktober May 2015 #54

nor does calling that same free speech irresponsible negate its original freedom LanternWaste May 2015 #48

I do. Dr. Strange May 2015 #57

Rational observation however, forces us to conclude that of the two, the meter, the intent and the c LanternWaste May 2015 #46

Yep, if you say "I'm not surprized, I saw that coming" you are victim blaming. nt Snotcicles May 2015 #56

go away, baitin' AngryAmish May 2015 #55

What if a woman trolled rapists, gave out her address, and waited with a shotgun? Half-Century Man May 2015 #17

I don't care if she walked naked through a frat house Goblinmonger May 2015 #20

+1 FLPanhandle May 2015 #27

No woman should ever be raped or murdered. Half-Century Man May 2015 #43

Geller's not the victim here. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #18

Her group as a whole were attacked. Goblinmonger May 2015 #21

If the organizers of the event set it up to provoke the likelihood of such an attack... Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #23

How about Goblinmonger May 2015 #25

Again, Pam Geller's not the victim. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #29

"Maybe the security who got shot is" melman May 2015 #75

Rhetorical flourish. Fixed for you. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #77

"Maybe" the guard who got shot phil89 May 2015 #76

See post 77. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #78

They share no responsibility except in the vaguest moral sense theboss May 2015 #30

She could have been harmed though. darkangel218 May 2015 #31

If she was a target, she was a willing one. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #37

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #39

Nope. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #42

She was voluntarily shot at? theboss May 2015 #45

Well, she personally wasn't. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #47

When Larry Flynt was shot by an anti-porn fanatic, was he asking for it? theboss May 2015 #49

Yes, MLK was totally asking for it. Tommy_Carcetti May 2015 #51

Actually, it sort of was theboss May 2015 #52

By drawing pictures? oberliner May 2015 #60

+1 Jesus Malverde May 2015 #68

"If she was a target, she was a willing one." darkangel218 May 2015 #41

'That being said'...usually means you are trying to link two things that have no relationship. Rex May 2015 #32

+1. Snotcicles May 2015 #40

Gellar was 100% unharmed Scootaloo May 2015 #33

What happened to Geller? Iggo May 2015 #34

Geller is what she is. Warpy May 2015 #36

I absolutely agree Skittles May 2015 #38

I agree. And I think the rape analogy isn't appropriate. cui bono May 2015 #63

so she asked for it? Goblinmonger May 2015 #64

Not what I agreed to at all. cui bono May 2015 #67

Pamela Geller is NOT a victim Tom Ripley May 2015 #53

Dude, thats sick DiverDave May 2015 #58

Effing ridiculous post... joeybee12 May 2015 #61

even those that don't care about free speech Goblinmonger May 2015 #65

that sails right over their heads Skittles May 2015 #73

Did this mythical "horrible, racist, ultra-right-wing woman"... 99Forever May 2015 #62

so there is a scenario Goblinmonger May 2015 #66

Hey, it's your sick, dispicable analogy. 99Forever May 2015 #74