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169. Yes you did

Tue May 8, 2012, 10:23 PM

May 2012

you claimed it was a "sophies choice" situation where she was forced to choose between the life of her son or that of her fetus. You said that. Don't back off now, it was so funny. You also claimed I was ok with forcing her to make the logical choice and sacrifice the son to save the fetus? Remember? Then you tried to claim it was a mother-only thing wherein no man could possibly understand the need to protect a child. Any of this ringing a bell?

And remember how she was arrested for verbally abusing that local person that was charged with providing her care?

Yeah, that would have cooled off the situation.

/also if you're afraid your son will go to jail how exactly is assaulting a police officer going to make things all better for him? They don't just forget about the crime because of your magical mama-grizzly powers.

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Report: Cops stun Tampa woman pregnant with sixteenth child [View all] Baitball Blogger May 2012 OP

What does her being pregnant with her sixteenth child have to do with cops tasing her? monmouth May 2012 #1

I know ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2012 #2

This will be sure to reveal prejudices. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #4

And just to ruin their narrative, the children in the small photos below the article are all clean monmouth May 2012 #11

They weren't a while back, there's a little bit of a backstory snooper2 May 2012 #43

There is no way that I see given the present attitudes, Baitball Blogger May 2012 #53

I feel bad for her kids, but I have a difficult time scraping up any sympathy for her. Quantess May 2012 #152

So if you're immature and have lots of kids, fair game to taze you? I'll keep that in mind. HiPointDem May 2012 #180

No. I guess it's hard to keep track of what each DUer writes. Quantess May 2012 #190

sorry. my error. HiPointDem May 2012 #191

No problem. It's a huge thread. Quantess May 2012 #192

She was eight months pregnant. Why did they tase her at all? Baitball Blogger May 2012 #3

Several things wrong with this story... trumad May 2012 #5

Someone is in full court press? Baitball Blogger May 2012 #9

They can enter, any way they feel like, all they have to claim is, someone is in danger. WingDinger May 2012 #10

In this case they were talking to the kid about a crime he was believed to have committed 4th law of robotics May 2012 #18

First, it was not witnessed by cops, and a misdemeanor at worst. WingDinger May 2012 #22

Are you willing to admit that while in your situation the "cops were out to get you" 4th law of robotics May 2012 #25

Sure, but given her media history, she is a ripe target, for punishment. WingDinger May 2012 #27

Given her history she's also a ripe target for raising kids 4th law of robotics May 2012 #35

So let's put more money in public education and sex ed classes! Baitball Blogger May 2012 #56

Absolutely we should 4th law of robotics May 2012 #70

I like the way you keep edging away from the primary issue. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #80

Sure it is 4th law of robotics May 2012 #82

I'm not so sure the cops had the right to barge in. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #84

Now you're changing your argument 4th law of robotics May 2012 #86

On the contrary. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #99

Like I've said 3 times now: read the article 4th law of robotics May 2012 #102

That doesn't sound like someone who is trying to support his position. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #111

I have, several times 4th law of robotics May 2012 #113

Then just quote the relevant post numbers. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #115

Ok, 4th law of robotics May 2012 #117

I looked up the post numbers. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #123

Whoops, must have looked at the "responding to" section 4th law of robotics May 2012 #127

Responses: Baitball Blogger May 2012 #132

Response: 4th law of robotics May 2012 #133

I do believe that given this woman's two year public history, Baitball Blogger May 2012 #137

You "believe" this to be true 4th law of robotics May 2012 #138

Cops generally have their own jurisdiction. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #142

You make a lot of arguments based on your assumptions 4th law of robotics May 2012 #159

I never said she feared he would be murdered. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #161

Yes you did 4th law of robotics May 2012 #169

I never mentioned murder. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #173

You made the claim that she had to choose between the two 4th law of robotics May 2012 #177

You're the one that made it appear she had to make a choice in order to be a good mother. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #182

The kid said he didnt do it. How much further can a cop go without ANY evidence? WingDinger May 2012 #146

This is where I'm confused. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #148

Yeah, normally, they ignore things. The next door hottie, and her friend, WingDinger May 2012 #150

I have been taunted by a punk ass cop nicknamed ROBOCOP. WingDinger May 2012 #144

It's not just the police that use this tactic. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #149

Tasers aren't people prods. They are deadly force. So thanks for condoning think May 2012 #200

She died? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #203

500 deaths from tasers in the last ten years. think May 2012 #204

You realize what the police use as alternatives to tazering when they are being attacked 4th law of robotics May 2012 #205

What a gun and shoot her? A billy club and beat her? think May 2012 #207

" What a gun and shoot her? A billy club and beat her?", yes, exactly 4th law of robotics May 2012 #208

Tasering and beating pregnant women seems thirld world to me think May 2012 #209

There was no beating 4th law of robotics May 2012 #210

From what I read two police officers entered the house after the women refused to let them in think May 2012 #211

No, that's correct 4th law of robotics May 2012 #212

Look, I suspect you'll never agree that the cops were in the right here 4th law of robotics May 2012 #213

And there is no question that the cops would have Baitball Blogger May 2012 #31

"They were retaliating for my busting a corruption racket, including cops and judges. " dionysus May 2012 #143

Not a joke, in the least, and I stopped a racket that targetted soldiers. WingDinger May 2012 #145

She assaulted the cop 4th law of robotics May 2012 #14

How difficult is it to grab a woman's hands and handcuff her if she's Baitball Blogger May 2012 #15

Yeah, how difficult could it be 4th law of robotics May 2012 #16

Why didn't they wait? Baitball Blogger May 2012 #19

Wait for what? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #20

They had the option to call someone that knew the woman. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #36

It turned in to a fiasco because she and her eldest daughter behaved incorrectly 4th law of robotics May 2012 #39

I repeat. This family had no were to go. No where to retreat. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #57

There was no need to retreat 4th law of robotics May 2012 #68

Instead, an alleged rock throwing has put this family over the line, completely. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #72

You are misrepresenting the facts of the case 4th law of robotics May 2012 #87

And that either-or thinking is all that is left for may people... LanternWaste May 2012 #61

The police aren't there for a shoulder to cry on 4th law of robotics May 2012 #69

Put them on a list, and on notice. Next time a rock is thrown, react. Oh, and require the reporter WingDinger May 2012 #153

Put them on a list, as she's being bludgeoned? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #158

Cops hyperbolize all physical contact. WingDinger May 2012 #163

It's true, all cops are liars whereas all civilians tell nothing but the truth 4th law of robotics May 2012 #166

Sounds WAY too much like a barroom brawl for rational consumption. WingDinger May 2012 #168

From the article: 4th law of robotics May 2012 #170

THe lady is CRAZY. Even more requirement to social support up. Bring social workers. Something. WingDinger May 2012 #171

So if you're attacked by a deranged woman 4th law of robotics May 2012 #172

The appropriate response is, get help. WingDinger May 2012 #174

Ah, so every police patrol to investigate vandalism should contain 4th law of robotics May 2012 #176

Ah, but the kid said he didnt do it, and ran. THEREFORE, WingDinger May 2012 #178

cops are always tazering and shooting deranged people who attack them for no reason. funny. HiPointDem May 2012 #181

Cops ARE tazing PLENTY of deranged people, and punks who's attitudes they dont like. WingDinger May 2012 #183

To solicit comments like: Capt. Obvious May 2012 #6

The story was written to elicit this kind of response. trumad May 2012 #7

+1 Baitball Blogger May 2012 #8

The people in the comments EC May 2012 #12

I always read the reader forums in the Orlando Sentinel. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #13

I keep hearing this sort of comment juice feast May 2012 #23

We'll never really know if birth control was an option. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #28

Rubbers are in the gas stations! juice feast May 2012 #29

Or they haven't been given the proper education. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #38

As I said before, anyone who would have these many kids juice feast May 2012 #42

Well, the authorities now have her where they can do anything they want to her. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #58

But, EC May 2012 #54

I know, right? Baitball Blogger May 2012 #59

I wonder if that commenter would have acted differently if the woman were Michelle Duggar tabbycat31 May 2012 #119

The Orlando Sentinel is an RW cat box liner KamaAina May 2012 #135

Naming the number stacks the conversational deck against her from the beginning. (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #156

I think it's important she was pregnant, but not how many kids she has. I'd think they'd HiPointDem May 2012 #179

Tasing a pregnant woman is worth mentioning... hughee99 May 2012 #187

I Got 15 Kids & 3 Babydaddys-SOMEONE'S GOTTA PAY FOR ME & MY KIDS!!! FarCenter May 2012 #17

Thanks for the video. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #24

I doubt that tasing her is going to cause permanent physical harm to her or her fetus FarCenter May 2012 #33

People seem to miss this obvious fact: 4th law of robotics May 2012 #40

Yet any other woman would have been applauded for protecting her children. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #44

Protecting them from what? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #45

We will agree to disagree. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #47

They forced their way in because the kid hid and the mother refused to talk to them 4th law of robotics May 2012 #49

The law isn't applied evenly. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #62

How many suburban moms in nice neighborhoods would have responded the way this one did? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #71

They would never have had to worry about it, Baitball Blogger May 2012 #83

Yes, this one clearly goes all the way to the top 4th law of robotics May 2012 #85

This was never about her to begin with. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #89

You're missing some steps 4th law of robotics May 2012 #95

Cops confronted a kid for an alleged rock throwing incident. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #103

Probable cause 4th law of robotics May 2012 #107

There was a better way to do this, Baitball Blogger May 2012 #109

Such as? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #112

I've explained this thoroughly. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #118

Who? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #120

Her children look well fed and cared for. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #124

You're assuming of course that the mom is not taking care of her kids 4th law of robotics May 2012 #125

I'm sorry FarCenter. I have to disagree that tasing cannot harm people. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #41

I just watched a local news video where Angel Adams was hauled into court Quantess May 2012 #50

And you know what, that conclusion is the only one that I think is fair to make. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #63

Due to all sorts of hazards women have encountered over the last million years FarCenter May 2012 #60

Oh my God. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #67

You were careful with your fetus right? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #73

What about her son? Baitball Blogger May 2012 #76

Sophies choice: 4th law of robotics May 2012 #78

She was defending her child. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #88

No, she wasn't defending her child 4th law of robotics May 2012 #90

I repeat, the cop was a cop. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #94

"given the woman's history." 4th law of robotics May 2012 #96

OH my gosh! Baitball Blogger May 2012 #98

Provide evidence 4th law of robotics May 2012 #100

And you are the one that made the argument 4th law of robotics May 2012 #92

BTW: the cop was a woman 4th law of robotics May 2012 #81

The cop was a cop. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #91

You're all over the place 4th law of robotics May 2012 #93

The way you put Angel Adams down, that can only come Baitball Blogger May 2012 #97

You are amazingly sexist you know that? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #101

Nice projectionist attempt. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #105

You are the one arguing that men cannot understand this 4th law of robotics May 2012 #106

Consider: 4th law of robotics May 2012 #104

OH my God, how your argument is contorting. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #108

"You were the one who claimed she should pick one child over the other." 4th law of robotics May 2012 #110

I don't owe you an apology. Here is your statement: Baitball Blogger May 2012 #114

Ok . . . 4th law of robotics May 2012 #116

I think you should stop accusing me of lying. It's not very nice. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #122

"I think you should stop accusing me of lying. It's not very nice." 4th law of robotics May 2012 #129

That was actually a nicely developing thread Baitball Blogger May 2012 #131

You're arguing that she was right to put her fetus at risk 4th law of robotics May 2012 #134

See, circular argument. We're back to where we started. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #139

Again, you are relying on this absurd notion that she thought her son would literally *die* 4th law of robotics May 2012 #157

I think you're the one who is not realistic. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #162

If you can't see that falling back on that old canard is an admission of defeat then I suppose 4th law of robotics May 2012 #167

It's not defeat. It's a reality of debate. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #175

This message was self-deleted by its author Baitball Blogger May 2012 #130

You must have had some medical problem? Exercise is recommended during pregnancy. FarCenter May 2012 #75

Complications are not unexpected when women work up to the point of delivery. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #77

Four people die every month from being tazed. HiPointDem May 2012 #186

I guess the woman in the video never read the guardian May 2012 #126

I think the intent of what she said is misrepresented in this video. It cuts off very quickly HiPointDem May 2012 #184

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #21

Whatever the answers are to your question, Baitball Blogger May 2012 #26

So if cops get hit by a person juice feast May 2012 #30

The cops were in complete control. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #51

The cops saw the kid throwing rocks? Fumesucker May 2012 #32

Did I say the cops saw it? juice feast May 2012 #34

Generally one adds "allegedly" to crimes until the trial has been concluded... Fumesucker May 2012 #48

Where I live, they won't pursue these kind of allegations Baitball Blogger May 2012 #65

I didn't see it either LACarMan May 2012 #46

Welcome to DU! Fumesucker May 2012 #52

Thanks! LACarMan May 2012 #55

It defies an answer. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #66

One of her kids was ALLEGEDLY throwing rock. She was likely the talk of the neighborhood, and could WingDinger May 2012 #37

You don't have to convince me about what dark intentions lie in the soul Baitball Blogger May 2012 #64

Breitbart ran articles hounding this woman when she was last in the news. Starry Messenger May 2012 #74

Looks like he has plenty here to pick up the baton for him. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #79

Last year's thread. Starry Messenger May 2012 #154

Did he run articles hounding the Duggars? KamaAina May 2012 #136

To be fair, the Duggars can also afford all those children somehow. Quantess May 2012 #141

So TLC needs to give Ms. Adams a reality show? KamaAina May 2012 #147

Zing! (nt) Starry Messenger May 2012 #151

I'd be stunned too if they gave me a 16th kid. n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #121

TASERS MUST BE BANNED. BlueIris May 2012 #128

It certainly seems to be giving some people the ammunition they need Baitball Blogger May 2012 #140

I cant protest, as if I get tazed, I am dead. So, my civil rights dont exist, if I want to survive. WingDinger May 2012 #155

Wait, they stunned her with a child instead of a taser? jberryhill May 2012 #160

Stupidity has consequences mythology May 2012 #164

If the story is true as relayed by the police...man, what a bunch of class in that bloodline. flvegan May 2012 #165

Tazing an unarmed person is cowardly. bhikkhu May 2012 #185

The cops Meiko May 2012 #188

I looked at the backstory on this, & I don't understand why this woman's story was all over HiPointDem May 2012 #189

Because her story serves a political agenda.. Fumesucker May 2012 #197

yeah, i was kind of being rhetorical. when you start noticing the propagandistic intent of HiPointDem May 2012 #199

No warrant is needed ti66er8pooh May 2012 #193

You're new around here, aren't you? Quantess May 2012 #194

See ya? ti66er8pooh May 2012 #195

Just wait for the pile-on. Quantess May 2012 #196

RE: Pile on ti66er8pooh May 2012 #198

+1 4th law of robotics May 2012 #206

Yay, Cops! Iggo May 2012 #201

The bigotry just oozes, here. Odin2005 May 2012 #202