You should give a damn what she believes: Pamela Geller is flat out dangerous.

[nadinbrzezinski]

119. I will agree with you on this

her rights are nowhere at risk. None would be successful in getting standing in any US Court, over incitement. And I mean NONE. Though it will be entertaining to watch

In fact, I would love to see some of the crap that was posted here, about stochastic terrorism in a court of law. That would be digging new legal territory, and if you get standing, I guarantee all the way to the SCOTUS. It might be worthy of pursuing, for a young, enterprising lawyer, with the intent of making legal history... but right now, there is like no case where that has come up. For the record, so we are clear, I believe the research on it is showing more than just promise.

That said, there is quite a bit of conflating going on. Some people are defending her rights becuase they believe in those rights in an absolute way.. that does not mean they are far left, more likely they are classic libertarians..yup, those stretch from the far fringes, to the center and then some, Why Libertarians will likely never see more than third party spoiler. But that is neither here or there. FAR LEFT is a dog whistle, and has been one for decades. People on a political site should be aware of it, but I am not surprised they are not.

Those folks who are absolutists are also wrong. there are actual real limits to speech, but she has yet to cross those lines... in the US. She has done that in places like the UK, but we are special in that respect.

Of course, what I find down right scary is that we have an actual honest to goodness in the courts, attacks on freedom of association and speech, I even posted the story in the morning, and that gets like zero attention. But the lady (who is hate filled) people are enthralled with her. I won't bother with either the internal or external link anymore, Just hint you, California Criminal Code 182.5, google up Tiny Doo. The case is far far from over even if Judge Hanoian threw those charges against Tiny Doo and Aaron Harvey.

I will save what that tells me... to myself. It is far from nice.

Edit, that was odd... with the bold code

And a final edit, I mean libertarians in the classic political science definition, not self political party identification