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In reply to the discussion: Here's a picture of the Kent State shootings from 45 years ago today. We should never forget this. [View all]marym625
(17,997 posts)25. There is a tape that captured the order to shoot
It wasn't discovered until 2006 by Alan Canfora, one of the victims who was shot in the wrist. Among evidence sitting with the FBI was a recording of the events. A student, Terry Strubbe, hung the mic of his tape recorder out the window. In it you can hear the order to shot. Something that had been denied by the National Guard.
The tape has been verified as authentic. In the search for justice it has been used to try and reopen the case. But that request has been refused
Order to Fire
http://www.may4.org/ordertofirestrubbetapeevidence.html
ORDER TO FIRE OHIO NATIONAL GUARDSMEN
*includes handwritten statements, May 4, 1970, as written by shooters*
"When the firing happened, I felt I did not panic, held my ground, and obeyed my orders...I don't feel they were people but 'savage animals'."
--Sergeant James Pierce, Ohio National Guard, Troop G, handwritten statement, May 4, 1970.
I thought I heard someone say, Turn around and stand your ground. At that point, everybody turned around
--Ohio National Guard SP4 Lloyd Thomas, Jr, Troop G, Federal Kent State lawsuit trial testimony, 1970.
As a Guardsman who was present at Kent State, I cannot wholly dismiss the possibilities of a deadly collusion I know others who welcomed the deadly confrontation.
--letter to the editor by anonymous GUARDSMAN, Akron Beacon Journal newspaper, August 18, 1971.
--Sergeant James Pierce, Ohio National Guard, Troop G, handwritten statement, May 4, 1970.
I thought I heard someone say, Turn around and stand your ground. At that point, everybody turned around
--Ohio National Guard SP4 Lloyd Thomas, Jr, Troop G, Federal Kent State lawsuit trial testimony, 1970.
As a Guardsman who was present at Kent State, I cannot wholly dismiss the possibilities of a deadly collusion I know others who welcomed the deadly confrontation.
--letter to the editor by anonymous GUARDSMAN, Akron Beacon Journal newspaper, August 18, 1971.
http://www.may4.org/ohionationalguardordertofire.html
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Here's a picture of the Kent State shootings from 45 years ago today. We should never forget this. [View all]
icymist
May 2015
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So many memories from that day, we were so shocked, killing students. "four dead in Ohio," n/t
RKP5637
May 2015
#1
The situation was a powder keg already, but got real FUBAR after FBI informant Terry Norman fired
FailureToCommunicate
May 2015
#16
That is what I was thinking. Some real similarities between then and now. When ever an unarmed
jwirr
May 2015
#19
My brother suffers from severe depression and his wife has fit because he watches the news. I
jwirr
May 2015
#21
Oh man - that image. That young woman's shocked grief as the other student lays there dying.
calimary
May 2015
#37
Imagine a national guardsthing, I wouldn't use guardsman, that was stoked to kill him a filthy
brewens
May 2015
#15
My Father and Mother told me once that that was the day they lost respect for America.
BlueJazz
May 2015
#17
inexcusable that current admins justice department will not reopen the case
questionseverything
May 2015
#30
I headed an active duty Army riot control unit that was on alert for the '68 Dem Convention
pinboy3niner
May 2015
#32