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stevenleser

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5. An interesting POV but it along with other posts in support of him dance around the real issue
Wed May 6, 2015, 09:23 AM
May 2015

if there was significant grass roots support for policies further left than that which the typical current Democratic candidates offer, we would see that in the form of victories by candidates espousing these views at the local and state level.

How many socialist party incumbents are there in state legislatures around the country?

The answer is you can count them on your two hands. There are extremely few in even the most progressive states in the country.

These races don't require a lot of money to win and you can get around and meet with most of your constituents to let them know your policies. If there was support for these kinds of candidates such that we can imagine a realistic chance of a Presidential candidate getting to 270 electoral votes, you would see a lot of victories at the state and local level by candidates with these views.

And to be sure, these candidates are out there competing for these races. They just dont get a lot of votes.

Has this person considered what not running as a Democrat might mean for the workers? mmonk May 2015 #1
I read it this morning. incredibly moronic. cali May 2015 #2
Yeah... NO. Adrahil May 2015 #3
The author wants Bernie to start a third party and not get involved in Democratic politics./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #4
Well, that would certainly "divide and conquer." calimary May 2015 #26
An interesting POV but it along with other posts in support of him dance around the real issue stevenleser May 2015 #5
I haven't seen ANY candidates espousing these views at local or state level. octoberlib May 2015 #7
Everywhere I've lived, Colorado Springs, Tampa, St. Pete, NYC, Los Angeles we've had stevenleser May 2015 #29
How many people even know about most races in their own area? YoungDemCA May 2015 #47
That's the responsibility of the candidate. State legislature race candidates can beat the pavement stevenleser May 2015 #49
+100 nt okaawhatever May 2015 #12
Meanwhile... 99Forever May 2015 #14
Agreed. I suspect that on his trips around the country he was testing the waters of running both jwirr May 2015 #35
yes this came through my facebook newsfeed yesterday. m-lekktor May 2015 #6
I met a member who was handing out newspapers at the North Hollywood Station DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #9
yup. we have to work with the system we have m-lekktor May 2015 #21
Probably because Bernie considers himself a Democratic Socialist, so he may not pass the okaawhatever May 2015 #13
that's it exactly, imo.nt m-lekktor May 2015 #16
^ exactly this ^ Hiraeth May 2015 #18
I don't like labels just for that reason... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #25
let me add, they might overlook his "impurities" m-lekktor May 2015 #28
I have a few like that on my list too. Starry Messenger May 2015 #15
I have a few that won't support anybody that runs as a Democrat. m-lekktor May 2015 #19
I think the country has to be a lot hungrier before they will vote pure socialism. But Bernie is jwirr May 2015 #36
For some, I think any excuse to not participate in elections Starry Messenger May 2015 #37
Probably b/c Sanders is a SINO (Socialist in Name Only) who ultimately believes that KingCharlemagne May 2015 #17
Right ~ she is not so off-base in her analysis TBF May 2015 #46
Governor of Vermont Koinos May 2015 #8
so much bullshit. cali May 2015 #23
Just One Article about Shumlin Koinos May 2015 #27
uh, I don't like shumlin, but the SW piece was filled with LIES cali May 2015 #33
Errors? Koinos May 2015 #38
She's right, it will help Hillary Clinton. And that's a good thing. DanTex May 2015 #10
exactly SteveG May 2015 #22
This statement isn't true: okaawhatever May 2015 #24
You're right. DanTex May 2015 #32
I agree. Bernie will fire up the race, Hillary will get all the benefit. JaneyVee May 2015 #11
They haven't even fired the starting pistol and already you're KingCharlemagne May 2015 #20
lol, Hillary's fans called this race for her before she'd even finished losing the last one. /nt Marr May 2015 #44
Bernie will bring a good and credible voice to left-wing policies even if he loses the Primary. stillwaiting May 2015 #30
And it would not be the first time that a losing candidate's ideas changed the direction of the jwirr May 2015 #40
That's my takeaway too. procon May 2015 #31
Tad Devine Koinos May 2015 #34
please Bernie stay away from Devine olddots May 2015 #39
What do you find troublesome about Devine? Koinos May 2015 #41
The author doesn't like him because he's a insider... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #42
Has Devine managed a winning campaign? Is that the issue? Koinos May 2015 #43
Sad to think of Bernie as "bait for the hook". nt daredtowork May 2015 #45
I am convinced that Bernie does not believe or realize that he is being used. Koinos May 2015 #48
Bernie Sanders and Tad Devine Koinos May 2015 #50
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