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In reply to the discussion: Is this the relationship islam wants with democratic nations founded on enlightenment ideals? [View all]RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)11. I'm flattered you like my word-slaw.
Just as the Enlightenment and colonialism existed next to one another, so does the USA's policies of war and policies of free expression.
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Is this the relationship islam wants with democratic nations founded on enlightenment ideals? [View all]
RadiationTherapy
May 2015
OP
"What about...those who believe that ethical life is possible without religion?
RadiationTherapy
May 2015
#1
Well, they will have a hell of a time in nations that value free speech, free expression, satire,
RadiationTherapy
May 2015
#6
Centuries of free speech and free expression - hard fought for and hard defended -
RadiationTherapy
May 2015
#7
Thanks for the link to the poll of global Muslim attitudes. Some good along with the bad.
pampango
May 2015
#9
people need to understand that "free speech" is over. It's a terrible idea. There is no need to say
Warren DeMontague
May 2015
#10
I would hate to see the principles of satire, sarcasm, irony, mockery, and absurdity - so well
RadiationTherapy
May 2015
#14
It's amazing that the 'fighting words' crowd does not see Christian preachers like Phelps as being
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#17
I don't think there is a single member of the "fighting words" crowd who did not see Phelps as ...
ieoeja
May 2015
#19
And yet in reality, Phelps and Co did hundreds of attacks on LGBT funerals and other events without
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#52
It's a story that makes the idea that the US embodies enlightenment ideals kind of a joke.
Starry Messenger
May 2015
#34
Most people with an astute grasp of history understand that the CIA overthrowing Mossadegh was a
Warren DeMontague
May 2015
#36
Certainly one can trace a lot of problems back to that supremely bad decision.
Warren DeMontague
May 2015
#41
I have rhetorically inquired the 1000 million self-identifying muslims in general.
RadiationTherapy
May 2015
#40
I am asking is this is what the 1000s of millions of people who identify as Muslim
RadiationTherapy
May 2015
#58
No. Does everyone who calls themselves Bob believe in a single infallible book
RadiationTherapy
May 2015
#61
Cool. I wish the reformist movement the best. I hope it is as painless as can be.
RadiationTherapy
May 2015
#63
As well as an awful lot of christians want to discriminate against gays and minorities, hell
NoJusticeNoPeace
May 2015
#30
The question is whether this enlightenment will be achieved through a relationship or isolation. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
May 2015
#31
When one is ignorant of the subject, one should refrain from pontificating on it.[n/t]
Maedhros
May 2015
#42
Do you think the subject is the history of denominational divergences in the
RadiationTherapy
May 2015
#45
Look - you're self-admittedly ignorant of even the most basic details of Islam,
Maedhros
May 2015
#49
Yes - the fact that you are comfortable with your ignorance is the primary problem.
Maedhros
May 2015
#51