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oberliner

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97. Right - I saw that article too

Reply to randome (Reply #95)

Wed May 6, 2015, 10:45 AM

May 2015

I think the CH people are distancing themselves from PG for other reasons.

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What's the difference between Charley Hebdo and Pam Geller? [View all] Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 OP

Iran hold a contest of cartoons of the holocaust, and no one died still_one May 2015 #1

The US and a "western coalition" attacked Iraq and 200,000 died. delrem May 2015 #3

Was it Iran that was attacked by the US? Yorktown May 2015 #5

What????? delrem May 2015 #6

... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #9

What is being pointed out is we attacked Iraq, not Iran, and the reference in this sub thread was still_one May 2015 #14

Remember "Piss Christ"? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #32

How many people died awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #36

In fairness we are talking about radical Muslims, just as I would refer still_one May 2015 #56

They would if they had the power..... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #59

Radical Muslims have the power to kill but Radical Christians do not? theboss May 2015 #83

Radical Christians would LIKE to have the power to kill.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #87

Not EVERYTHING in the Middle East is about Israel.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #10

I wasn't referring to Isreal, I was referring to freedom of expression that some countries setup still_one May 2015 #15

Is it actual COUNTRIES that do that and not clerics? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #20

Iran was one of those countries, ask Rushdie still_one May 2015 #25

That was a LONG time ago. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #26

And Ahmadinejad? And Yusuf al-Qaradawi? Yorktown May 2015 #37

is spitfire going to answer this question? i don't it matters to Rushdie and the impacts samsingh May 2015 #41

I don't think they should be avoided to prevent an attack.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #47

you haven't answered the question on Rushdie. that was a country attacking his free speech samsingh May 2015 #53

Yeah, I did. I said it was a long time ago.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #64

so you don't care about the impact on a man's life? keep making excuses samsingh May 2015 #70

He's PROUD of it. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #75

more blame the victim. wow. this gets more interesting all the time. samsingh May 2015 #80

What were you saying about an agenda? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #81

Quotes could be pulled from the Bible too. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #46

do you want to try to stay in the present if you're trying to have a real conversation samsingh May 2015 #52

You know the core of your argument is stuff from several decades ago, right? Scootaloo May 2015 #55

actually i am - but you're being especially lenient against a death sentence samsingh May 2015 #71

Right. So you're using somethign from decades ago, while admonishing others to "stay in the present" Scootaloo May 2015 #84

again - a death sentence against a writer is not nonsense to people who don't support samsingh May 2015 #90

i seem to be more coherant and less supportive of death sentences than you samsingh May 2015 #73

Shahin Najafi had a fatwa issued against him as of May 2012, following the release of his song still_one May 2015 #62

Not by an actual country. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #65

sarcasm on: but that was 3 years ago - come on - be coherant : sarcasm off samsingh May 2015 #74

There have been others also still_one May 2015 #77

i know. and the misdirection by some is revolting - to say this was long ago - to Rushdie who still samsingh May 2015 #79

That's a good way of putting it. Renew Deal May 2015 #2

Disagree Yorktown May 2015 #4

I'm addressing the attempt by Geller to claim the world should say, "We Are Geller". Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #7

This is off topic but among other things.. Geller is Cha May 2015 #11

It's not off topic. It's another example of her stupidity. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #19

Thank you.. that's the way I saw it. Cha May 2015 #85

Tell me she didn't do this. Pooka Fey May 2015 #69

Conservatives are now claiming victim status because they aren't being hailed as heroes.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #78

Unless the ideology is construed to be anti-american. delrem May 2015 #8

Your moral relativism is stunning. Yorktown May 2015 #12

I have a link full of information for you to study... Scootaloo May 2015 #16

A perfectly inadequate image Yorktown May 2015 #30

You got all that out of a link to rationalwiki, huh? Scootaloo May 2015 #35

Got the glorious gist of your gish gallop Yorktown May 2015 #38

From a rationalwiki link. Scootaloo May 2015 #39

gratuitous ad hominem Yorktown May 2015 #42

Ad hominem has a specific meaning Scootaloo May 2015 #44

Yes, and you should learn it from this thread's arborescence Yorktown May 2015 #51

Your way of "debating" has taken you from Texas to Tehran Scootaloo May 2015 #54

LOL, You throw stones from a glass house Yorktown May 2015 #57

i notice spitfire only answers and twists questions that fit into some agenda samsingh May 2015 #40

Really? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #48

It's a mistake to call Geller stupid. She's not stupid cbayer May 2015 #13

Being a racist makes you stupid. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #17

Being a racist makes you a racist, and she is most certainly that. cbayer May 2015 #21

Cha pointed out Geller is also a birther.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #23

Actually she's pushed a story about Obama being the secret love child of Malcolm X. cbayer May 2015 #24

This is what happens when you think they all look alike. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #29

Well, it's also what happens when you have a hate driven agenda and want to cbayer May 2015 #34

How tough is it to rent a hall and scribble? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #49

How hard is it to garner this kind of media attention and get support form all over the spectrum? cbayer May 2015 #50

Not ALL over the spectrum.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #60

Hedbo stands for free speech, Geller doesn't. JaneyVee May 2015 #18

I actually found Charley Hebdo far more irresponsible than anything Gellar did (at this time) theboss May 2015 #22

A Strong Defense? CBGLuthier May 2015 #27

How? The cops took out both. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #31

Yeah but the undefended cartoonists in France died first. No one was killed by the Texas terrorists. CBGLuthier May 2015 #89

Some folks could think it's a pro-gun thing. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #98

What are the similarities between Charley Hebdo and Pam Geller? Bonx May 2015 #28

Nothing. nt LittleBlue May 2015 #33

the security in Garland was a lot more effective rollin74 May 2015 #43

CH was a soft target. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #45

They didn't go and shoot up a bunch of Jews unrelated to the event? Behind the Aegis May 2015 #58

Don't worry, I'm sure the KKK is on it. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #61

If not them someone, then come the excuses...or rather, excuse. Behind the Aegis May 2015 #63

There are times I with the aliens would land and clue us in that all earth's religions are myths.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #66

I really really do not like Pam Geller Gothmog May 2015 #67

The difference is that Charlie Hebdo's #1 satirical target is the Catholic Church Pooka Fey May 2015 #68

Has anyone posted images of these 'cartoons' that Geller wanted to showcase? randome May 2015 #72

It's like I've been saying for a while. These people are trolls. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #76

the difference between "satire" and "trying to be offense" is a matter of opinion and irrelevant. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #82

The butbutbut brigade is out in full force on DU, along with half-baked rationales about Warren DeMontague May 2015 #88

So Charlie Hebdo saying they weren't satire is...wrong? randome May 2015 #91

Who exactly said that and what exactly did they say? oberliner May 2015 #93

Not as clear-cut a distinction as I thought but still... randome May 2015 #95

Right - I saw that article too oberliner May 2015 #97

what? I'll try again: the difference between "satire" and "deliberately trying to be offensive" Warren Stupidity May 2015 #94

I'm not offering an 'apology' for violence. randome May 2015 #96

The winning entry was posted here oberliner May 2015 #86

I think the vast majority would see that as satire. And it's spot-on. randome May 2015 #92

That's kind of fantastic actually theboss May 2015 #99

Charlie Hebdo saying it isn't satire seveneyes May 2015 #100